Difference conditions for internationals, especially when using agents

I just went through the admission process with two good friends and their children. Because Disneykid’s application was unusual (strong hook, only applied to one school), his experience would not produce much general insight. But with these applications, I can make some generalization that may be helpful.

  1. March 2 acceptance e-mails sent to agents
    My friends received acceptances from two schools (Wyoming Seminary and St. Johnsbury Academy) over a week before the in/famous March 10 date. Schools higher on the food chain stuck to the traditional date but I was very surprised to found out some schools notify agents so far in advance. Further, one agent was pushing my friend to make her decision by MARCH 14th, telling her the school requires a response by that date!! I was telling her that it is not the school policy and offered to write an e-mail, but she feared annoying the agent. She and her daughter visited the schools before being accepted (most internationals only go after acceptance…) and they were fine with making an early decision.

  2. Different categories of Asian applicants
    There is a general perception that all applicants from Asia fall into the category of Over Represented Minority. I would say there is a huge range of how schools view candidates in terms of diversity. Applicants from mainland China are clearly held to very high standards because of the sheer number of candidates. Those from Korea and Taiwan are probably also considered ORM. However, if you are from an international school based in Indonesia, Malaysia or Thailand, etc. – then you are a very attractive diversity candidate. You don’t even have to be of that nationality, just having lived there makes you more “exotic.” Then there is Japan which is probably the most Under Represented industrialized country when it comes to boarding schools. In February, Andover finalised a deal with a top Japanese private school to admit one student (on full scholarship I assume) per year. It is of interest to note that Andover reached out to form this agreement. Agents will note that schools want Japanese students so much, that they are usually accepted with far lower hurdles. In my son’s case, I have no doubt that we received generous financial aid because of his nationality.

  3. Acceptance at schools 20 points below SSAT average
    This is a continuation of the second point. That BOTH kids I know were accepted at schools well above, around 20 points, their SSAT average. At some schools, apparently they look at SSAT quantatitive to gauge math skills and then TOEFL, rather than SSAT. They were accepted at some pretty good schools like Williston Northampton, George School and Mercersburg… I worry about the boy especially because he was heavily tutored to begin with. Still, he is applying as a 9th grader (same birthday as my son who will be a junior in September)… so he will have four full years to adjust. In addition, the school he selected has a strong ESL and tutoring program so he can get help.

  4. Whether it’s better to use an agent
    Because English is not a problem for me, I would have never paid to use an agent. However, from my friends’ experiences, I did find out there are benefits. They do have strong contacts with schools which can make application easier, though if the school you select is one that they have little contact with, advice is minimal. While they used different agents, they both had plenty of complaints. When we all met, that was the longest topic of conversation! Their biggest advice would be that you still have to do your own research, you still have to be your child’s biggest advocate, you have to make the agent accountable.

Thank you for sharing.
It does seem ORM countries are mainly China, Hong Kong and S. Korea.

Last year, I saw that schools outside of the TSAO agreement announced their decisions much earlier, about a week before M10, so it does seem usual to have early results (without agent). I don’t remember which ones exactly but several of these announced decisions earlier than M10:
Lawrence Academy, Wyoming Seminary, George School, The Gunnery, Tilton School, Brewster Academy, New Hampton School

Thanks payn4ward, didn’t realise this. Guess all I usually read here are the TSAO schools so I was so surprised to find others that didn’t follow suit.

If my child were to go to Mercerburg or Williston for example, what percentage of classmates could we expect to be Asian internationals with below the average scores? What exactly is going on here?

Can anyone speak to the care or lack thereof given by Mercerburg or Williston to the selection of their students from Asia? What % of students, how have they fared, do they stick together or is their truly diversity? I do not want to send my child to a school where foreign students are not integrated into the community.

@Hail61 I don’t know about Williston but at Mercersburg, I felt that the students from Asia were able to integrate well with community. In their recent magazine, (you can read their magazines online, issuu.com, search Mercersburg) there were several Asian students in Cum Laude Society (Spring 2014 issue) and there are couple of their interviews on the website. One was going to Swarthmore and another to Johns Hopkins, I think.

Thanks, @payn4ward, we were told that Williston caps all internationals at 20% which is quite a lot lower than many schools.

@Hail61 Mercersburg reports 23% international students as well.

Williston web site: 450 students in upper school (9th through 12th grade + PGs), 35% of whom are day students (about 157), another 100 of whom are international (about 22%). Of those students, they say they limit students “from any one language base” to 8-10 students. The reason for that limit is to ensure diversity and make sure international students DO integrate into the community, and don’t just form a clique by themselves.

The 23% at Mercersburg includes a wide array of countries. I don’t really know the percentage of Asian kids - perhaps 10%? - but I’m absolutely certain that they are well integrated into the community based on what I’ve seen there and what I hear from my son.