<p>In the end, its not the people who went to an ivy league school, and had perfect stats who succeed. Its the people with good ideas and the motivation to carry them out who succeed.</p>
<p>Write the essay yourself</p>
<p>moddedchare</p>
<p>Speak for youself. I love my school.</p>
<p>*It’s. </p>
<p>Who is to say the ivy league grad with perfect stats does not also have good ideas and motivation?</p>
<p>While I won’t say whether the statement is correct or incorrect, but it implies that the two are, in all cases, exclusive from one another. </p>
<p>Maybe I misinterpreted.</p>
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<p>The college admissions system in general is by no means flawless at recognizing greatness.</p>
<p>However, you could argue that a lot of CCers have huge motivation, and that motivation is what got them into the Ivy league schools. So you might say that while going to a top ranked school is not the reason you’ll be very successful, Ivy League schools still have more students that are more likely to be successful do to their hard work and intellect (which got them there in the first place)</p>
<p>Maybe.</p>
<p>Ivy schools put students into the mind set of workin hard and getting a 6 or 7 figure salary.
Great ideas and creation however cannot be taught. They come from all over and many are actually college drop outs.</p>
<p>McCormick, thats exactly what I was aiming at.</p>
<p>we actually had this debate in our english class
its all about mind set. Some people dont like listening to others teaching because it kills your ideas and creativity. But on the other hand you need a certain amount of knowledge to be able to do a lot, i am refering alot to start ups like myspace and facebook that were started by loanly college students.</p>
<p>It depends.</p>
<p>I honestly get really tired of people bringing up outliers as if they are somehow indicative of a trend – “Oh, such and such never went to college and look how far he got,” etc. People never seem to be willing to look at these situations and assess WHY such people didn’t need college or a good school to get ahead.</p>
<p>Even at that level, for every school-less overachieving superstar you show me, I can show you thousands more successful people who did go to school. Do you need an Ivy to get ahead? No – of course not. Many Ivy League students came from well-to-do families to begin with, and so those networks/resources have a certain sense of self-leveraging.</p>
<p>But if you’ve got a creative mind and a decent intellect, I don’t think it’s always enough. Getting a good education is the best way to take those ideas and channel them in a way that creates successful impact.</p>
<p>Yes i agree with that, but i dont think that ivys are where they happen. Some schools accept students that they see that potential in even if they dont have the best grades and scores.</p>
<p>This theory is entirely based on your generalizations and expectations of what an ivy league student is and is capable of. </p>
<p>Which makes it rather silly to bother debating if it’s something you conjured up and stamped as true. </p>
<p>You assumed all CCers (yet somehow you’re the one exception. Shocker.) all fit into an A and B mold. And all ivy or top tier college students similarly fit into an A and B mold. </p>
<p>And your entire argument relies on the above blanket statements being true.</p>
<p>Sure – I’m not arguing that Ivies are necessary. I’m just saying that a good school opens a lot of doors and provides some clout to place behind your motivation and ideas.</p>
<p>OP you should read the book the Outliers by malcom gladwell. It is very interesting and talks about this topic</p>
<p>hahaha “loanly”</p>
<p>For what it’s worth, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both went to great schools (one a top national school, the other a top liberal arts school) before dropping out. And likewise, Sergei Brin went to UMD.</p>
<p>where did they go?</p>
<p>Gates went to Harvard and Jobs went to Reed.</p>
<p>Gates also went to a prestigious high school in the Seattle area. They have an amazing reputation and people there aren’t the type that only study to get grades, but they have fast wits and the type that can improvise intelligently. They interview applicants to the lower (middle) school and upper (high) school to be sure that their 4.0s and entrance scores aren’t just based on studying and memorizing.</p>