No issues with my Whirlpool. Not really. It’s super quiet, cleans well, and I’m one who does prefer the utensil basket in the door.
The only thing I really don’t like is how low the bottom rack is, due to the gear no longer being on the bottom of the unit. There must be some design plus, but it escapes me.
Sure, we had a drainage issue after a few years. But I don’t consider that a design or manufacture flaw. It was some food or other that clogged the exit pipe. Frankly, the Sears service charge was much lower than replacing.
About rinsing. We run it maybe once or twice/week. Of course we need to rinse or crud would dry on. But that’s YMMV.
Another Miele fan. Yes the flatware rack takes longer to load than a basket you just throw things into — but since I group the same kind of utensils together, unloading it is really fast. And with the tines spaced so close together, I can load more dishes in at one time than with any other dishwasher I have owned— so it runs less often. Also doesn’t need much soap.
I have a 6 month-old Whirlpool that I am very happy with. I used to be a Kitchenaid girl, but we moved into a condo with a Whirlpool, and when we remodeled the kitchen in 2017, we liked it enough to stay with the brand. I did not want the third rack for silverware, figuring that they were just fitting an extra level into the existing height of a standard DW, and it would mean practically laying down on the floor to get to the bottom rack It is very quiet, and cleans everything until it sparkles. And the price was reasonable. It is the model with the stainless steel inside and hidden controls, one down from the most expensive.
One more Miele fan. I just bought a new one for my pantry. I love the flatware rack; no more food left on the flatware. It’s also incredibly quiet. I have an older Miele in the kitchen and the new one has a lot more options.
Windows in appliances- eek. No, the insides of my fridge do not look like the beautiful display of fake food at the appliance showroom. And dishwasher with a window - gobsmacked.
There was a great presentation on NPR a couple of years ago about appliances. They basically said…they are built to last 7 years…maybe 10 if you get lucky.
The one example I remember was the need for a stainless interior to the dishwasher at added cost. They said that the dishwasher itself was very very likely to die long before that stainless interior or even a plastic interior failed. They suggested NOT upgrading to a stainless interior.
Our Bosch has a stainless interior…but that is because it was what was on sale…and also had the low dB level we wanted in our open kitchen/family room.
I fully expect my fridge to die any day…it’s about 6 years old. But that’s a whole other thread.
Friend recently bought one with a SS interior and I do have to admit it’s dang sexy (appliance sexy, lol.) Maybe KA?
Since a dw is dealing with drips and messy hands, the one thing I could appreciate that I don’t have is the full door with the panel inside. As it is, the little details and seams on my door catch grime just from touching and loading. And the texture needs attention when cleaning. (In contrast, my shiny smooth refrig only needs a pretty mindless wipe down.)
We had a Maytag dishwasher before our Bosch. It was 19 years old and going strong…but we were replacing appliances so replaced it as well. It had a plastic lining. It worked just fine. It was, however, from 1995 and was very noisy…especially in our very open kitchen/breakfast room/family room.
We are very happy to have an almost silent dishwasher now…and really the composition of the interior didn’t matter to us.
@BunsenBurner no fingerprints here…we have white appliances
Bosch owner here. Because I don’t expect it to last past 7 years, we bought a middle of the line model. I can’t see dropping big money on something with such a short lifespan.
I do like the 3rd shelf for utensils. I use it more than I thought I would.
I don’t have any real complaints about it but I’m not jumping up and down happy with it either (I only get that excited about my Speed Queen washing machine - if only I"d known about Speed Queen earlier!!).
Other thing about Miele— they have fantastic free long-term technical support and they support their dishwashers w respect to spare parts for 15 years.
It’s sad on many levels that one should only expect 7 or so years from major appliances these days vs say 20 years ago. Among other things, it really sucks for the planet. What a waste of resources. As a contrast, vehicles have gotten much more reliable and last much longer than they used to.
I have never had a dishwasher that I haven’t had to rinse the food off of. I actually have to ask: when people say they just put dishes in the DW without rinsing, does that mean you immediately run it? With just dh and me, I can sometimes go 3 days without running the dw. Any food left on the dishes would be cemented on at that point. Am I missing something? We have a newish KA and I’m not positive I’ve really tried to put non-rinsed off dishes in this model. Next time I know I’m going to run it right after a meal, I’ll try it. Maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised. But, as I say, that happens after about 1 in 3 meals.
When my needs to be replaced 20 year old KItchenAid dishwasher was newer (about the first 17-18 years of its life), no I did not rinse of dishes even when I didn’t run it right away with a few exceptions: egg yolk, gunky spoons with sticky things like peanut butter or thick things like sour cream on them. Those I would rinse but otherwise, no. I also ran the energy saving cycle and stuff came out clean. As mentioned previously, I do handwash pots and pans because I usually need them before I’m running the dishwasher and they take up a lot of space. Plus, it’s just not good for some kinds of cookware.
"I have never had a dishwasher that I haven’t had to rinse the food off of. I actually have to ask: when people say they just put dishes in the DW without rinsing, does that mean you immediately run it? "
See my avatars. They are dumpster species. Either the tortie will “rinse” the dirty plates or I have to be disciplined and leave no temptations on the counters. Dishes go into the dishwasher promptly in my house. because the cycle is so short, I turn it on every evening.
My appliances are all 10.5 yrs old (got them all at same time I redid kitchen) and no problems ever and all still work just as well as the day they were installed. My washer & dryer are even older - at least 12 years. My dryer did need a new part (was $400) but that’s $1000 less than a new one so was a no brainer to get it fixed.
And dishwasher with a window - gobsmacked.