do i have a chance at all??? please be honest

<p>out of state (texas)
asian (indian)</p>

<p>gpa: 3.6</p>

<p>rank: top 10 percent (i think around 90/900)</p>

<p>mostly B’s in 9th and 10th
one C in 10th
All A’s in 11th</p>

<p>SAT: 2100</p>

<p>any chance?</p>

<p>Yes. 6.5% </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_fr/Frosh_Prof10.htm[/url]”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_fr/Frosh_Prof10.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>your rank and gpa hurt you, esp. because you’re out of state, but your sat is pretty good. any ecs?</p>

<p>out of state, you will have a hard time getting in with those stats.</p>

<p>Speak to me of your AP scores. A long list of 5’s would skyrocket your chances.</p>

<p>^ Really? Personally, I think AP scores have little to no effect, especially considering AP scores taken during senior year don’t even matter at all. (Though a long list of 1’s and 2’s would say something…)</p>

<p>Anyways, with that GPA and rank, plus being out of state, might be an “ehhh,” though certainly not impossible.</p>

<p>Yes. UC schools have been admitting more out-of-state students in recent years because of budget crisis (out-of-state students pay more tuition the in-state students). Your profile looks good (not perfect or standing out, but good). So you have chance for sure.</p>

<p>they have been admitting more OOS but the % is still VERY low for OOS.</p>

<p>Blimey, US college admissions are hard. I’m at the 3rd best uni in the UK and I had no extra curricular stuff. I had all As but when I applied and wrote my personal statement all I talked about was how much I loved history and politics and what I thought about it… there was a tiny bit about my work experience, I think. I don’t envy you guys at all, not to mention your crazy fees (mine are about $5000 a year, same all over England)</p>

<p>^US college admissions focus on different things than other countries.</p>

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US admissions aren’t particularly difficult. It’s just that the United States, unlike most nations, is a very large country while our tier 1 colleges all hold around the same students as their foreign counterparts meaning that a person from the 3rd best college at the UK would be no where close to being suited for the 3rd best university in the US.</p>

<p>(UCLA also happens to be a very in-demand and selective university for its rank.)</p>

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<p>Wow, harsh.</p>

<p>Well, there are loads of British unis in the world top rankings. [World’s</a> Best Universities: Top 400 - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-universities/2010/02/25/worlds-best-universities-top-400.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-universities/2010/02/25/worlds-best-universities-top-400.html) </p>

<p>My uni’s no easier to get into than any of those except Oxford and Cambridge, which are solid. I think we just approach these things differently: my British friends who have gone to American unis say Americans do lots more work, but it’s a bit easier, whereas with us there’s a lot more independent study and thought. It’s just two different ways. But I happen to think I am smart enough to go to one of your top universities, thanks.</p>

<p>Also- admission statistics: [People</a> | University Profile | The University of Warwick](<a href=“http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/about/profile/people/]People”>People | University Profile | The University of Warwick)</p>

<p>It admits 11% of applicants- 35000 apply and 3300 accepted. Varies from subject to subject, but still. My uni ain’t bad. :)</p>

<p>Univ of Warwick is ranked 58, UCLA is ranked 32… that’s quite a big difference.</p>

<p>Warwick’s only 50 years old, though, and half the size of UCLA. I’m not saying it’s better, by any means. I think the way British uni guides measure unis are a bit different, like they include student satisfaction more than research quality (though Warwick is still good for that). But it’s still comparably good, and Britain in general has great universities. Plus we can’t legally charge high fees, so our unis have less money :P</p>

<p>The University of Warwick is NOT the third best university in the United Kingdom. I have no idea where you got this claim but, aside from Oxbridge, some of the universities I would consider stronger are University College London and Imperial College London. </p>

<p>Warwick is not competitive with UCLA in the undergraduate and especially not the graduate/research level. UCLA is much more internationally recognized. Many of the top rankings don’t even list Warwick. THEQS lists Warwick rank 58 vs UCLA rank 32 and ARWU does not list Warwick vs UCLA rank 13. People do not generally respect USNWR as a source for international rankings.</p>

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Not really. My logic just assumes that a larger pool of people = larger pool of talent. If the third best university in the UK was really equal to the third best university in the US given the same amount of students enrolled in the top three colleges of each nation, there would be a serious problem with American youth. Britain has roughly 1/5 the population of the US. What I’m getting at is the British student would be far lower ranked percentile wise than his American counterpart.</p>

<p>I got it from the Guardian university league table. [University</a> tables 2011: download the spreadsheet | Education | guardian.co.uk](<a href=“http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/datablog/2010/jun/15/university-tables-spreadsheet]University”>University tables 2011: download the spreadsheet | Education | The Guardian)</p>

<p>The Times usually ranks it about 5th. Edit- it appears to be 8th this year. Lol. But last few years ranges between 5th and 8th.</p>

<p>Again, I would point out that Warwick is much smaller and poorer- with an endowment of £5 million, about $7.5 million, as opposed to $1.8 billion for UCLA, according to Wikipedia etc. So no, I guess we don’t compete internationally, but we’re still a damn good uni, particularly in the context of Britain. </p>

<p>I get what you’re saying about the larger pool of students, I think I misunderstood initially but I am always going to be defensive about my university… It’s great. It’s also appears that it’s easier to get into good unis in Britain than it is in America. That’s what I was saying.</p>

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<p>I was remarking more on the tone of your post, but you’re still failing to take into account differences in education systems and the general vagaries of admissions and choosing colleges.</p>

<p>so if i have some EC’s and good AP scores, i’ll have somewhat of a chance?</p>