Do I have a shot?

<p>UMich (soph+junior) GPA: 3.5 (super upward trend) Went from 3.0 GPA (grade deflated private school) soph year to 4.0 junior year.</p>

<p>AP’s:
US History - 3
English Language- 5
Physics C- Senior Year
Calculus BC- Senior Year
Biology- Senior Year
English Literature-Senior Year</p>

<p>ACT: 30 (will retake in september)
SAT: 2040</p>

<p>EC’s:
Internship with electrical engineering company (specializing in superconductor technology)
(summer of 2009)
volunteering at soup kitchen - 200+ hours
president of high school engineering club (junior and senior year)
editor-in-chief of a community newspaper (9th-12th grade)
MUN (10th-12th grade) Attended confrences at Yale and UN HQ
Varsity Fencing (9th-10th grade)
Varisty XC (9th grade)
Junior State of America (11th-12th)</p>

<p>I must note that between sophmore and junior year I transferred from a private school to a public. The reason I transferred was because the private school simply did not offer many courses in science and mathematics, rather it focused more on humanities and such. Also the private school seriously deflated my gpa. When I switched to public school my non- Umich gpa for Junior year was an UW 3.8 and a 4.0 Umich gpa. </p>

<p>Can I get in if I apply EA?</p>

<p>Oh and I want to apply to the College of Engineering.</p>

<p>And im OOS.</p>

<p>another way to see it is your public school inflated your GPA…</p>

<p>If your private school doesnt offer as many math/science course as your private school, it’s probbaly not a top private either, which means you better have a very good explanation for your 3.5 gpa. </p>

<p>I dont know if your upward trend would help you too much. It could be credited to the decrease in rigor of the schools. </p>

<p>I hope I didnt come off too critical. I am just pretending to be an adcom thinking out loud</p>

<p>Haha thanks. My public school sends about 10 kids to ivies every year out of a class of 400 if that helps…</p>

<p>I’d say you have a very good shot of being deffered after applying EA. If you do well your senior year first semester you’d be accecpted. I don’t think your chances of being accecpted rightout are very high, though that would depend on how grade-deflated your highschool is. How do you compare to others, and what type of people from your high school get in.</p>

<p>Edit: 10/400 isn’t too impressive. My school (public) probably sends 30-40/800 to Ivy and similar schools.</p>

<p>Thanks! 10char</p>

<p>Today 11:23 AM
QwertyKey I’d say you have a very good shot of being deffered after applying EA. If you do well your senior year first semester you’d be accecpted. I don’t think your chances of being accecpted rightout are very high, though that would depend on how grade-deflated your highschool is. How do you compare to others, and what type of people from your high school get in.</p>

<p>Edit: 10/400 isn’t too impressive. My school (public) probably sends 30-40/800 to Ivy and similar schools. </p>

<p>I’m guessing you go to Pioneer. If you do, you should know that regardless of what US News says, Pioneer is a top notch public. Pioneer has a really high top, but also a low bottom. The top students of Pioneer are among the best in the country. </p>

<p>To the OP: 10/400 is high enough that your school will be considered as competitive. My school was US News Silver medal last year, but we only got 2 acceptances to Ivies this year (both from the same person), and I’m pretty sure that my school was perceived as competitive by Michigan.</p>

<p>Your EC’s are really good, and your ACT is within range (this may make up for your low GPA). Apply really early (by October 1), and you should have a solid chance of acceptance.</p>

<p>bump 10char</p>

<p>thanks mumurthigal!</p>

<p>bump 10char</p>

<p>bump 10char</p>

<p>you bumped 4 times within less than an hour and 15 minutes (that thanks whatever was eeffectively a bump)… and your thread was close to the top for the whole time…maybe you should stop bumping and wait for people’s reply? just saying…</p>

<p>Positives:</p>

<p>Good (not great) test scores.
Interesting internship
Good ECs/Community Service</p>

<p>Negatives:</p>

<p>GPA. Bearcats is right, public school could be perceived as easier.
OOS. With the economy the way it is, in-state took more spots at Michigan this year than past years, so it’s tougher as an OOS.
Engineering. Michigan’s toughest school to get into. </p>

<p>Overall, I think you have an outside chance, you should be aggressively looking into some safeties. </p>

<p>As for the “my school sends XX to the Ivies” argument, unless you’re one of the ones going to an Ivy, I think it has little impact. Just because you played on the high school golf team with Tiger Woods, doesn’t make you Phil Mickleson.</p>

<p>"Engineering. Michigan’s toughest school to get into. "</p>

<p>This is a double edged sword. Statistically it’s not. But the pool is also very self-selective. Which implies:</p>

<p>If you have high stats, the higher acceptance rate at COE is your friend, because you are less likely to be randomly rejected.</p>

<p>If you have low stats, the higher self-selectivity at COE is your enemy, because you dont stack up well with other applicants.</p>

<p>The OP falls into the latter group</p>

<p>mumurthigal…
How do you know Pioneer is a top-notch school? Out of the last class of about 700, they only sent 10-15 to Ivies. They are pretty much a U of M feeding High School. About 15% of the senior class end up attending U of M- about 20%ish I think get in.</p>

<p>Most kids from Ann Arbor will decide to spend 30k less per year to attend Michigan. For some, attending Michigan is a lifelong dream, and they don’t even apply to ivies. According to your statistics, 75% of accepted students enroll from Pioneer. If there was no in-state option, more students would go to Ivies. I’m guessing that that number would jump up to 35-40.</p>

<p>Why is Pioneer a good school? I’m not saying that’s a top 50 school in the country. I am saying, that for a school of its size and nature (open-enrollment), it does a very good job (along with Huron) of preparing students. The high quality music program strikes me as well. I feel that Ann Arbor residents are very lucky in this regard.</p>

<p>Heplayer, are you sure it’s that low? I really thought it was higher.</p>

<p>maybe that’s because Ann Arbor residents are smarter? There are a lot of professors, researchers, grad students and just alums who live in the area… genes might be a factor, not the school</p>

<p>bump 10char</p>