<p>It seems that the majority of classes are either departmental or aren’t transferable at all. Would this mean the majority classes I take at Schoolcraft will not transfer in? That would be a waste of two years because I really don’t want to spend 6+ years just in undergrad. Would I still be able to graduate in 4 or 5 years?</p>
<p>If it said it is not transferable on that searchable database, then you would not get that credit in UMich. I know students that could not get credits from CC and need to retake the classes at UMich. The adviser at your school should have the information. UMich is pretty tough on this particularly for CC from OOS.</p>
<p>I do know a few friends of my son’s who were able to finish in 4 1/2 or 5 years who transferred from a Mich cc. One way to motive the time would be to make a point of taking classes that count as a Umch departmental credit, and to be sure you’re studying the discipline you’ll transfer to.</p>
<p>Hi Mike - my son transferred in after 1 year at Schoolcraft. He was able to transfer most of his credits, but he checked them in advance for their equivalency. He took care of his language reqts, English, some general electives. Good luck. </p>
<p>I just transferred to Michigan from a CC, and all of my credits transferred. UMich was my target school, so I planned accordingly and this was the expected result. I do know one girl here who transferred from a Chicago CC and successfully used the appeal process to get credit for classes she took there that didn’t originally transfer.</p>
<p>If the classes you are taking aren’t already approved for transfer, save everything. Syllabus, tests, etc. If you can provide this to the people making transfer credit decisions, you stand a much better chance of getting the credit. Also note that department credit does transfer, it will be used to meet elective requirements from that category.</p>
<p>@PeterW - in each case to which I was referring, the students had not pre-planned precisely to take only UMich equivalent courses, because neither of them originally intended necessarily to transfer.
Depending on degree, scheduling, grad pre-reqs and things such as second-language proficiency (LSA) or math proficiency, under those circumstances it’s not necessarily possible to graduate from Umich within 2 additional (to cc) years. Especially if said kid needs to work summers to afford to go.</p>
<p>That is WHY we’re suggesting the poster check equivalencies, and select cc classes according to to equivalency standing.</p>
<p>I would hope you’re not suggesting that Umich should grant its well-regarded degrees to folks without meeting its own grad standards because they’re transfer students Two years of cc is not, nor should it be, exactly equivalent to two years in a rigorous Umich program.</p>
<p>So there’s a little more to it than simply getting up a 8 am…though I’m sure in some cases that contributes to extended stays ;)</p>
<p>@kmcmom13 – absolutely not. I totally agree that two years of CC, no matter how highly rated or outstanding the quality of classes at the CC, is NOT equivalent to the rigor of course load at UM. My boy is a senior in the COE (Computer Engineering) and he will be graduating this spring and had no problem fulfilling all the pre-reg science, math, and breath of knowledge classes in addition to the classes specifically required for his major in 4 years. Granted he had to take a couple of early morning classes on the Central Campus and two Friday late afternoon and evening laboratory courses. He complained but he realized that in real-life his employer will not let him come and go as he pleases. </p>
<p>I am sympathetic to the kids who have been given poor advise as to transferability of their CC classes to UM and I realize that you can’t really expect a kid to know what career course they want to take right out of high school. Heck I originally wanted to become a veterinarian right out of high school. That lasted until after my first freshman Zoology exam. I ended up majoring in chemistry and then to graduate school. The major difference between back then and now is that prolonging the time to get your degree from 4 to 5 years can add $50K to your college costs. My kid knew that and scheduled his classes appropriately.</p>
<p>Not exactly about this topic, but I do know a freshmen who took a lot of classes at a CC in CA as dual enrollment and found out UM does not consider most of her credits. A local CC (i.e. from SE MI) should be better as the adviser should know which course would have transferable credit at UM from previous experience.</p>
<p>Yes, in state CCers have a much easier time transferring credits to Umich. That’s because there is a statewide equivalency agreement between the CCs and ALL public universities in Michigan (MACRAO)</p>
<p>I cannot recall where I found it, but a few years ago there was an actual spreadsheet accessible to CC students that shows every single course and its transferability to each University. Faster and more transparent than using Umich’s database, where you have to input each class.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, although Umich participates in MACRAO, its equivalencies are not listed in the Michigan Transfer Network, so the best bet is to get the transfer info, spreadsheet or link from the CC a student is attending as it makes it easier to pick the equivalent classes.</p>
Two years of cc is not, nor should it be, exactly equivalent to two years in a rigorous Umich program.</p>