<p>DH: Honey, there is no cider in the fridge!
Me: Didn’t you say that you’d put it in there when I asked you about doing it?
DH: No
Me: but you said “yes”!
DH: No, I did not say “yes”. I said “Hmmpf”
Me: How am I suposed to interpret that?
DH: Hmmpf… (typing away on his laptop…)</p>
<p>^^Our actual conversation last night. :)</p>
<p>I’ve also learned to avoid “yes” “no” questions with men. They’ve learned that they don’t have to listen, all they have to do is grunt a “non-answer”.</p>
<p>^^^^^^^^^^</p>
<p>hahahaha . . . as one of my rommates used to say: “sounds like a personal problem.”</p>
<p>It all gets back to different lingual tracks for females and males.</p>
<p>Problems come in assuming that one’s own track is the norm, and the other is deviant.</p>
<p>Clarity - like simplicity - takes hard and constant work.</p>
<p>Our house cure for mumblish - from whichever gender - is to ask again until the matter is clear . . it’s worth it!!!</p>
<p>Who has read Deborah Tannen’s “You Just Don’t Understand!” It’s about the different ways men and women communicate. Good read.</p>
<p>One must wonder if you have trained your kids to mumble, allowing them to get away with it. They are now primed and ready to disrespect (by mumbling) their wives/husbands. So, once again, parents, the problem is your not training them correctly. All you do is disrespect them by talking trash about their poor speach that you trained them to present. Again, parents, you are NOT the victims. You are the problem! Train them to respect you. Try telling them, “You are welcome to mumble, but you may not get some very important things you might want, e.g. the car keys, food, payment for cell phone, etc.”. Follow up with, “Once you can clearly articulate, then I can clearly help you with the afforementioned. Capiche?”</p>
<p>Hi TrueLove.
Ignoring the judgemental tone of your post, I reply:
Yep, that worked with whining when son was young. I “could not hear him” when he was whining. It worked.</p>
<p>It worked with unkind words and statements. Not permitted. “It’s OK to be angry; it is not OK to say hurtful things.”</p>
<p>This mumblish evolved much later, when son was employed and responsible for all discretionary expenses. It also occurs almost exclusively in response to a question from a parent. We have no leverage of the kind you prescribe. </p>
<p>I believe he will outgrow this.</p>
<p>Mafool</p>
<p>TrueLove here’s what you said on another thread:
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<p>How is it that you can post on one thread about your love for Jesus Christ and then come on the parent forum and be so judgmental and condescending? I don’t get it. Many of your posts that I’ve read on the parent’s forum have not helped our lives become more “happy, fulfilling, or meaningful". To me your posts are often antagonistic and your purpose seems only to bait parents to argue with you. See, now I’m doing it. Somebody kick me.</p>
<p>It is possible that we did a good job raising our children even though some of them mumble. This is supposed to be a fun thread. Can we leave it that way?</p>
<p>You are only hearing “judgemental” verses the truth. That’s okay. You know you are wrong. Defend yourself as you may. Wasting your time defending your pride will keep you stuck in your badgering your kids and talking trash about them. I would never talk trash about my kid. NEVER! I would take responsibility for how I trained them to act the way they do. BTW, the fact that your kid lives under your roof, you paying their bills, etc means you have tremendous control over their lives. So, no excuses. Just think if you had a personal trainer. They NEVER accept excuses. Nor do I.</p>
<p>I am responding to the fact that you are trashing your own kid online, not taking responsibility for your role in training them to mumble, and you have created a kid who is going to present disrespect toward their wife or husband one day, should they marry.</p>
<p>I am certain you have given your heart to raise your kid. And you’ve done a fantastic job. But, in this one area, it is not funny or cute to have a child not respect you as their parent, or any human, for that matter.</p>
<p>Sorry for sounding too judgemental or strong.</p>
<p>I suggest that we pretend truelove is speaking mumblish and we can’t hear her. She’s definitely not speaking as a kind adult, let alone following wwjd. </p>
<p>My three kids, two boys and a daughter, all speak mumblish. Most frustrating are messages left on the answering machine. When our daughter leaves one we have to play it back a few times and often we still can’t understand her. And we have iphones so can’t blame them!</p>
<p>Kathie, pretend all you want, dear. As a parent, simply tell them I did not understand your mumblings. Please call again! Issue resolved! Imagine that. Sometimes certain parents love to set things in order to make their children be bad so they can complain. It gives them something to yap about.</p>
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Amen to that!</p>
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<p>Yet, with your 17 years(?) of amazing wisdom in child rearing you are very willing to trash talk about us (parents).</p>
<p>Thank-you for reinforcing my point
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<p>Now please, somebody kick me!!</p>
<p>Hey Gals, give me some time to do this WWJD thing right. Meanwhile, whether God is involved or not, please try to say positive things about your children, your husband, your life. It seems like some of you like to be negative just to be heard. You think it is funny or entertaining. It isn’t. Try to remain positive and encouraging. Negativity is way too easy to live in. Your tones here have a gossippy sound. You are better than that! Dare to call out your positive, fun side! It is in you.</p>
<p>lol Feels like the thread took a ■■■■■ turn.</p>
<p>My dad even has certain Mumblish words and translations. At 85 I don’t think he’s going to change and I wouldn’t expect him to. I say hey you just garbled your sentence, he chuckles, garbles some more, then we both laugh. Eventually we communicate again. :)</p>
<p>Mumblish is not a deal-breaker. Even with my husband, it’s more entertaining than an issue.</p>
<p>I am responding to the fact that you are trashing your own kid online, not taking responsibility for your role in training them to mumble,</p>
<p>Ok…some clarification is needed. We are NOT trashing our beloved children online. We adore our kids and think the world of them. </p>
<p>However, that doesn’t mean that we can’t have a little fun sharing the joint experiences of trying to figure out what they’re saying when they speak Mumblish to us. </p>
<p>To trash someone is to use much harsher wording than anything we’ve all written.</p>
<p>Got it. One man’s (woman’s) trash is another’s treasure :)</p>
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<p>WOW! Some people can’t engage in a lighthearted thread (as it was intended). Why are you even reading and commenting on this thread if we are so terrible? I would guess you have nothing better to do with your life then spend time putting down others.</p>
<p>Whatever they say about their kids the moms/dads here are VERY proud of their youngsters. Everyone understands that if he/she is a parent, TrueLove included.</p>
<p>I see mumblish as yet another,unexpected and sometimes humorous phase in my son’s development. Sort of like when he was about 6 and everything that happened before his time was “Back in the 40’s.” Dinosaurs were back in the 40’s and so was our wedding. We never did figure out where that one came from! </p>
<p>He knows how to speak appropriately with other adults. He gets lazy with me. So I call him on it.</p>
<p>That’s all.</p>