Does "bad neighborhood" mean "black neighborhood?"

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<p>Hanna–those are equal opportunity crimes. Since you brought it up, Seattle’s black city council member is currently being charged with beating his wife. </p>

<p><a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003958298_mciver18m.html[/url]”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003958298_mciver18m.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Now for good old fashioned street crime in the CD you have these recent ones</p>

<p>"“He came down the stairs, made a bee line straight towards me, grabbed me and tried to pull my purse away from me,” she recalled. </p>

<p>He dragged her for a few yards, tore her purse from her and ran. </p>

<p>"I didn’t want him to get away with it,” she said. </p>

<p>Mariel chased him and that’s when he turned and attacked. </p>

<p>“As I was running up, he turned back, grabbed me by the shoulder and started punching me,” she said. </p>

<p>She estimates he hit her 10 times in the face. </p>

<p>Neighbors heard her screams and ran to help. </p>

<p>"It was definitely this scary scream and then it was silent, and then it happened again and she yelled ‘Help me!’ It sounded like someone was killing her,” said Danielle Osborne, a neighbor. </p>

<p>Soon they learned it was probably the same man who attacked someone else 10 minutes earlier two blocks away. </p>

<p>Adam Gehrke, a radio and TV reporter for Metro Traffic, was walking down 13th Ave. E. when someone ran up, tackled him to the ground, beating him repeated – all for a wallet that had no cash. </p>

<p>“I consider myself really lucky that my injuries weren’t worse,” Gehrke told KING 5. </p>

<p>After seven stitches and a CT-scan, Mariel looks back on it all wondering what kind of person would do this. </p>

<p>The suspect is a black male, 20 to 30 years old, 160 pounds, with short hair. He was wearing a black shirt or coat and a yellow knit cap"</p>

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<p>Where/when did I suggest that poor/black people don’t beat their wives?</p>

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<p>Oh please, Hanna. Don’t go all lawyer on me. Your implication that as the area gentrifies such crimes will become the norm was meant to downplay the more violent crime among the prior residents and was clear as crystal.</p>

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<p>What in the world? I was contradicting your post alleging that $700,000 homeowners don’t commit crimes or tolerate criminals, period. What was the correct, implication-way to contradict that fallacy? And how does it “downplay” violent street crime to point out that other crime occurs behind closed doors?</p>

<p>There’s no question that domestic violence is a bigger problem in poor and minority communities than it is among rich white people. I represented poor black DV victims in a family law clinic, so I don’t believe I need further education from you on that subject. But it’s a big mistake to assume that the only kind of crime occurring in a neighborhood is the kind you can see. I notice that you’re not defending the statement you made to that effect.</p>

<p>I see you’ve edited a post, though I’m mystified about why. I’m a single woman living alone, without a car, in inner city Chicago. You think I need to read some garish police report to wake me to the reality of violent street crime? This is ridiculous.</p>

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<p>A lot of interesting conversations start on CC. This whole issue, Lakewashington, is new to me.</p>

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<p>Then I stand corrected. You were just indicating that rich folks commit crimes too. Even though the topic was focused on street crime. Ok. I just never felt too threatened by a guy overstating his deductions.</p>

<p>I ran an apartment building in the Seattle CD during the change and lived there. I’ll take the current situation tax cheats and all.</p>

<p>The edit just removed another story that was redundant.</p>

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<p>oh no lw :wink:
As for the CD, Gay residents (bargain hunters) of nearby areas like Broadway, Capitol Hill and Montlake have migrated to the [used to be] cheaper homes in the heart of the CD</p>

<p>Teh Gay have migrated to Ballard. :wink:
As have the African Americans actually. Ive also notice that they are living more west Ballard where the homes are much nicer and bigger than in my scruffy little neighborhood.
Which is great- but I admit I was a little surprised when I saw [Dan</a> Savage](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Savage]Dan”>Dan Savage - Wikipedia) a while back at my gym- not that he is your prototypical Liberace type by anymeans-its just that he is the first “celebrity” I recognized. I thought I should point him toward Fremont :)</p>

<p>spidey
What if there was a group of volunteers who organized into a support network for kids who are underrepresented in those top classes?</p>

<p>Actually they do have several groups already
this is one
<a href=“http://www.collegeaccessnow.org/[/url]”>http://www.collegeaccessnow.org/&lt;/a&gt;
But
while there are minority parents involved in these efforts- for the most part volunteers are dominated by Caucasian parents, which possibly inhibits more people from getting involved & I don’t know how to fix that-
I already gave it the old college try when I was cochair at an all city school where we did everything we could thing of to expand involvement
Had free child care at meetings- served pizza-even had parent meetings at Thurgood marshall in the South End.
But nothing took</p>

<p>Ill also throw in that * 50-70* years ago, the South east Central district was Caucasian.
My mother lived at the very end of Yesler( with her parents)in Leschi as did my great aunt and her family.
Residents were predominatly Jewish ( until they moved to Mercer Island)</p>

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<p>Thanks for the link, emeraldkity4. I looked around a bit and didn’t see that they provide a tutoring service to bring kids up to speed who might have educational gaps which could impede participation in the most advanced classes. It seems like it might be for kids who are already ready for everything (and it gives them guidance in the admissions and prep process). I’m not sure if a program like this would necessarily serve to increase the presence of students from underrepresented groups in top classes.</p>

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<p>Kitty, the adjacent neighborhoods of Seward Park (and Lake Washington Boulevard) maintain a significant Jewish population. Although those areas, like Genesee, are geographically in SE Seattle and not the CD.</p>

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<p>Thats true LW
The QFC across from Rainier Beach high school had a huge section for Jewish related foods and holiday items- Its no longer a QFC though.</p>

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<p>“Hanging a innocuous homemade piece of woodwork on your front porch in Columbus can get your house seized by the city and sold at auction.”</p>

<p>What?! How can the city possibly get away with such flagrantly unfair actions? Why, that’s tantamount to out and out robbery!</p>

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<p>Poetsheart, my own disbelieving eyes and ears saw and heard such an event transpire as part of the PBS documentary on the gentrification of a working class African-American neighborhood in Columbus. A real estate agent actually pressed city inspectors to take the homeowner to court and, as I recall, a reluctant judge warned the homeowner he would have no choice but to order the enforcement of the “anti-porch art” regulation, meaning that the city could assess fines and ultimately seize the property if the homeowner didn’t remove the offending objects and pay the fines, which he had refused to do for months. I’ll do a Yahoo search to see if I can find the title of the exact edition of ‘Frontline’ and its broadcast date.</p>

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<p>Here it is; the film was a 2003 PBS ‘P.O.V. (Point of View)’ broadcast entitled “Flag Wars.” The film depicted the battle between a realtor, a gay white resident of the largely African-American ‘Old Towne’ neighborhood, and a neighor who operated a Black Art Gallery out of his home. The gallery owner went to court numerous times and spent $10,000 over the years to defend his property rights. The title of the film stems from the fact that as gentrification began, old-time residents began posting U.S. flags from their porches as an act of defiance against new white neighbors who hung Gay Pride flags from their homes.</p>

<p>pbs.org/pov</p>

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<p>And if anyone’s interested in the opposite demographic, you may be interested in reading Alan Dershowitz’ book, “The Death of an American Jewish Community”, which chronicles how blacks looking to move into Boston were red-lined into a predominantly Jewish neighborhood, to keep them out of the Irish Catholic ones; the neighborhood slowly but surely became predominantly black.</p>

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<p>hmm…that’s what comes to mind</p>

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<p>Chevda, I don’t think Hillel Levine would appreciate you attributing his book to Dershowitz. Besides, Alan would never write something so scholarly.</p>

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<p>datdude, I love how you just post this thread then praise everyone who agrees with you highly while reprimanding everyone who disagrees. The whole point of a forum is the DISCUSSION, so why can’t you accept that others have different opinions?</p>

<p>I wrote this post having read up to page 6, so if anything has changed then disregard my comment.</p>

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<p>In my city (a large city) there are more ‘bad’ Hispanic neighborhoods than black neighborhoods. Since the population is 60% Hispanic, we have huge sections of the city that are predominately Hispanic and quite crime-ridden.</p>

<p>Key word here being ‘crime-ridden.’ THAT is what makes the areas ‘bad’ not the racial concentration. It’s socioeconomic.</p>

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<p>newmassdad - OOPS! I humbly apologize to Mr. Levine!</p>