Does coming from a really competitive school help?

<p>Would that help in anyway with the acceptance at Ann Arbor? Also how good is it for an admissions officer to see an upward trend, I’m talking like huge. About a 3.6 or 3.7 to straight 4.4s?</p>

<p>They both help - but you’ll also need pretty high SATs/ACTs to complement that.</p>

<p>Would a 27 or 28 be good enough</p>

<p>Not likely</p>

<p>what high school? if you’re getting a high gpa at a truly competitive school, then you should be getting much higher than a 27 or 28 on the ACT…</p>

<p>What nubswitstubs said. A really competitive high school doesn’t have kids with 27 or 28 ACTs getting 4.4s. That would be a moderately competitive high school, at best. UM is probably a reach.</p>

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nubs doesn’t know what he is talking about. Neither does Pat. There are plenty of strong students who have ACT scores in the 27-28 range. There is only a loose correlation between ACT scores and GPA and you don’t notice it because 4.0 students with ACT scores in that range do not go around publishing their scores.</p>

<p>It is not so much that the school is competitive that helps but that U-M has concluded that students from the school have successful experiences at U-M. I can’t comment on the OP’s chances because the GPA is likely weighted and I don’t know enough about her or him but the ACT score of 27-28, while not a selling point, is probably not too low in and of itself to keep a student from being admitted to U-M.</p>

<p>Let me clarify.</p>

<p>The ACT score isn’t a major problem at all (although it is on the lower side). I meant that the high school is probably not competitive enough to make up for a lacking GPA. Obviously the UW GPA is a better indicator, and we don’t know the applicant’s cumulative GPA. But a 3.5 UW GPA at a semi-competitive school = reach. A 3.5 UW GPA at a renowned school = not a reach.</p>

<p>So all I’m saying is if the school is truly THAT competitive, it will help a ton. But a solid public school won’t make up for a lacking GPA.</p>

<p>The kid ranked 15th in my class has a 4.4. I think 1st is at like a 4.6. There’s plenty of competition as I have a 3.9 and am ranked 45 out 256. I also know a handful of students from my school that got in with a 28 on the ACT and hopefully I can do the same. Ann Arbor takes into account the rigor of a senior year schedule, ill use that as a benefit as I am taking 5 ap classes out of 5 hours. Only a couple kids are doing so out of my class
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<p>Hey,</p>

<p>To answer your question, I just graduated from Brother Rice High School (a private Catholic school in Bloomfield Hills, MI) which is a extremely competitive school in Michigan athletically and academically. Rice is one of the top schools in the state of Michigan.</p>

<p>I applied to U-M in November of my senior year (NOT early action) with a cumulative GPA of 3.21 and an ACT score of 28 and I was admitted. </p>

<p>Can you believe it? </p>

<p>No, I am not the son of an ambassador or rich donors, I’m just a regular guy who debated in high school. I didn’t play any sports and I didn’t create the hottest gaming app for the iPhone when I was only 16.</p>

<p>I was surprised when I got my acceptance letter because U-M was definitely a reach school for me, considering my scores. But I decided to go up to Ann Arbor and find out why they accepted me (indirectly, of course). The lady who actually decided to accept my application (Ms. Sanders) told me that she accepted me because of what she thought I could contribute to the school despite my low grades/mediocre scores. She said that it was really my essay that got me into the school (my grades surely didn’t).</p>

<p>So don’t worry too much. You’re in a great place right now. If you want to increase your chances, my advice to you is to get involved in an extra-curricular heavily and do well or just do a lot of community service, etc. and write a really good, coherent essay. Make yourself stand out. Don’t just write an essay on a book, politics, etc. Make the admissions officer find out who you are and why you’re going to be admitted to U-M. It really helps if you have a story in which you overcame a huge obstacle (e.g. parents divorced, homelessness, bullying, etc.) or one in which you did something great (e.g. coordinated community projects, volunteered someplace and did it ever since, etc.). Things like that.</p>

<p>You’ll be fine. Just relax.</p>

<p>Best regards.</p>

<p>Nacomar, </p>

<p>Thanks for the reply. I agree with everything you said, except a score 28 being low. Hopefully everything goes I’m my favor.</p>

<p>There’s a loose correlation between ACT and GPA because the ACT is the same everywhere. A 4.0 at one school isn’t the same as at another.</p>

<p>Also, IS vs OOS is huge here. If Michigan has a school in state they like, those kids get the benefit of the doubt. OOS kids have to fight more and don’t get that special treatment</p>

<p>OOS can get special treatment to a degree if the applicant is from a state that would diversify the student body - i.e. not Tri-state, Cal, IL, FL.</p>

<p>Can someone look this over and give me their opinion? <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/1518871-what-my-chances.html#post16080880[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/1518871-what-my-chances.html#post16080880&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You definitely have a chance and you should definitely apply. I’m sorry you are struggling with the ACT. It can be very frustrating especially for a strong student such as you. Try not to let it get the best of you.</p>

<p>Thanks, I don’t understand why i get like 27-33 on the practice tests but i can’t do so on the actual exam. I was using the real act book and the mcgraw-hill book. I only took the practice tests without reading and understanding the book itself. Does anyone think this might be the problem. I only took practice tests to improve my timing. Any suggestions and other opinions on my chances.</p>

<p>Pro tip: don’t bother reading 90% of the science section lol</p>

<p>I didn’t. In school is very uncommon for me to get less than a 93 on a test but i honestly dont know. I am going to try to understand the material this time</p>

<p>You have a chance but I think you need to aim for 30+ on your ACTs to really ‘sell’ your story of getting your act together after not doing as well during your earlier years in high school.</p>

<p>A number of students from my HS went to Michigan w/o a steller GPA (Went from a 3.2 to ~3.5 unweighted) but it was a super competitive HS with the average SAT being around 2050 so admissions didn’t weigh the GPA as heavily. Unless that’s also the level of your HS I wouldn’t count on the HS level earning too much in the way of brownie points.</p>