Does Cornell College pretend to be Cornell University?

<p>It seems they use the name Cornell for publicity?
I just now realized that they are separate schools, and all the mail/email I got from Cornell College was not at all about Cornell University. In fact, I’m not sure if what I know about Cornell is about the right Cornell!</p>

<p>Also, I hope I sent all my paperwork to the right Cornell :/</p>

<p>come on, no one really confuses the schools or look at them together for admissions or otherwise.
if you are serious and not joking, just forget about it and don’t worry.
they don’t use the name for publicity or anything like that, they have better things to do. Mich State does not use the name Michigan to get publicity as if they are Univ. of Michigan.
cornell college does not pretend to be anything else and no one would say otherwise.
I’m sure you sent your paperwork to the right place and you are probably sure about that also,
I’m sure you dealt with the right cornell, whichever one that is.
I don’t think anyone has ever mixed up applications to either cornell or to Mich State v, Michigan or at other schools with overlapping names.
don’t give it another thought or waste your time.
just chill and wait for decisions in April. its that easy.
I wish you good luck.</p>

<p>Indiana University of Pennsylvania is by far the most confusing name.
Is it Indiana University?
Is it University of Pennsylvania?
No, it’s Indiana University of Pennsylvania.</p>

<p>Also there is about half a dozen Columbia Colleges, I believe all or most are two year programs.</p>

<p>'Must be nice, however, when asked, “so, where did you go to college,” you can honestly reply, “Cornell.”</p>

<p>(itty bitty footnote in the brain: “Cornell College”)</p>

<p>No on will ever ask the follow-up question, “Ummmm, is that Cornell College or Cornell University?” Just like, no one ever asks the follow up question, “Is that Penn as in University of Pennsylvania or Penn State?” Whoever you are talking to with glom on to the first impression that their own mind comes up with.</p>

<p>(: it’s like Harvard and Harvard Extension School.
You can say “I went to Harvard”, but the two are vastly different. hehe</p>

<p>Concerning the origin of Cornell College:</p>

<p>"Almost exactly one year later, at the annual meeting of the trustees in July 1855, the articles of incorporation were altered changing the name of the school from the Iowa Conference Seminary to Cornell College. At the same time they explicitly affirmed their intention to grant the degree bachelor of arts, noting their intention to “admit ladies to the same course of Study as Gentleman and graduate them with the Same Honors.” The name change reflected both the intention to shift from a “seminary” to a “college,” and the hope that support for the fledgling institution might come from the Cornell family. That hope was to prove a vain and somewhat embarrassing one. Elder Bowman had met and solicited the support of William Wesley Cornell, New York iron merchant and Methodist, and, legend has it that Bowman thought that naming the college for Cornell, without his prior endorsement or even knowledge, might guarantee a large gift. It did not, and apparently irritated the potential philanthropist. Ultimately, William Cornell did relent, and give the College $1,000 for library books and a few similar pledges. This contrasts rather markedly with the gift his fifth cousin Ezra made toward the founding of Cornell University a decade later of $500,000 plus some $5 million worth of land. Cornell University was, intentionally, from its origins wholly anti-sectarian. Ezra Cornell wrote, rather startlingly, “the gospel as it is preached falls like a mildew upon a benighted world, and tries to shield the deformities of the dead and putrid carcass of ‘the church’ from the penetrating eye of advanced science and humanity.” It is hard to imagine a more startling contrast to the seminary turned college sponsored and supported by Elder Bowman’s Iowa Methodists. The current Mission Statement of the College, affirmed by both the faculty and the trustees, states accurately that Cornell was “nurtured by the United Methodist Church.” "</p>

<p>Excerpted from “Deus et Humanitas Cornell College” by Dr. Sam Schuman</p>

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I’ve never heard Penn State referred to as “Penn”. Never.</p>

<p>Neither have I and I live very close by.</p>

<p>IMO, this is a useless thread…</p>

<p>^ if an applicant is stupid enough to apply to cornell college thinking it’s cornell university it’s better that we don’t get him/her anyways. Cornell college doesn’t ruin Cornell U’s rep. I would feel more sorry for cornell college being in the shadow of cornell u and having to borrow from us.</p>

<p>"IMO, this is a useless thread… "</p>

<p>I disagree, the confusion of Cornell College with Cornell University comes up from time to time, mostly during admissions like this case.</p>

<p>It is relatively infrequently a point of confusion afterwards because Cornell College is teeny and located halfway across the country in Iowa.</p>

<p>By contrast Penn and Penn State are both large and have many alumni in close geographic proximity.</p>

<p>But the point is, they do not, as it happens use the Cornell name for publicity, as OP speculated, they actually had the name first, and use it because that is their name. However pathetic their adoption of the name in the first place may appear, based on the history.</p>

<p>mony, how/why did you move your post under mine lol?</p>

<p>As one who lives in the mountain west, Cornell in Iowa is confused with Cornell University. I think sometimes since Cornell College is closer, people assume that is the Cornell I am referring to.</p>

<p>Also, again in the west, many people hear Penn and think (incorrectly) Penn State. They don’t know any different. Also, many people don’t realize that University of Pennsylvania is an Ivy league school. All of the University of (name a state–California, Colorado, Washington, Arizona, Nebraska, Oregon, etc) in the west are public universities so they think Penn is the state flagship in Pennsylvania.</p>

<p>All in all, people recognize the Cornell name and know intuitively that it is a good school. I think Cornell College has a good reputation too–although I don’t know much about it.</p>

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I’ve lived my whole life west of the Rockies. Many people do assume that U of Penn is the state flagship. However, I’ve simply never heard anyone associate it with Penn State.</p>

<p>Here’s an example for you: if someone says they’ll be studying at “Oregon” in the fall, they don’t mean Oregon State. Nobody would ever assume that they meant Oregon State. If they wanted to talk about Oregon State, they would say “Oregon State” or “OSU”. “Oregon” means the University of Oregon.</p>

<p>^ It’s exactly the same in the midwest. IU is Indiana University and the other big state school is Purdue. I guess there is Indiana State, but it has a horrible reputation while the others are held in very high regard.</p>

<p>If you say you are attending Indiana, it is automatically assumed that you are speaking of IU, not Indiana State. </p>

<p>Furthermore, many people out here assume that University of Pennsylvania is a state school. Only teachers, businessmen, and professionals know the difference.</p>

<p>“mony, how/why did you move your post under mine lol?”</p>

<p>One foible of CC is that it only gives you a certain amount of time to edit your post, but gives you more time than that to delete it. On occasion I think of something else/different a while after I’ve posted, but when I try to edit it, I’m told I can’t any more. So instead I delete the post and re-write it in a new post. Sometimes that results in it appearing out of its original order, but usually when that happens it is soon enough that nobody else has referred to it in the meantime.</p>

<p>given that you guys are talking about state v. non state schools, maybe someone can clear this up. I don’t see an exact answer out there and made a few inquiries on this issue here at college confidential.
Are the state colleges at cornell actual cornell colleges or are they state colleges.
They look to be state because they are on the state (SUNY) web site as being part of their colleges. anyone know the deal? If someone applied through SUNY, would they have gotten the SUNY price instead of the cornell state contract price. The link is here:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.suny.edu/student/campuses_complete_list.cfm[/url]”>http://www.suny.edu/student/campuses_complete_list.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>A cute little way Cornell College tries to clear up this “confusion”–
[Not</a> in Ithaca - About Cornell - Cornell College](<a href=“http://cornellcollege.edu/about-cornell/not-in-ithaca.shtml]Not”>http://cornellcollege.edu/about-cornell/not-in-ithaca.shtml)
Although,

is a little silly.</p>

<p>And, seriously, sunshineflorid, you couldn’t google what contract colleges are or even search for the 19 million other CC threads explaining it? Ridiculous.</p>

<p>Their wrestling claim is in jeopardy
<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/15/sports/15cornell.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/15/sports/15cornell.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;