I hope for everyone’s sake, that there can be reconciliation and forgiveness. Being estranged isn’t good for either party.
I think that there will not be any reconciliation while Meagan is a part of the picture. Unfortunate but I don’t think she’s interested and I don’t think the family trusts her. Hard to say how things might play out.
If Meghan really is writing a book then the Royal Family is going to be extremely cautious. After all H&M need to make money somehow and another attention-grabbing bestseller would presumably help.
As the article concludes:
The Queen hasn’t got where she is today by being an ingénue, so what will her view be on bringing the errant stepson in from the cold? Even if Charles is keen to forgive and forget, will she be too, after he said on international TV that she was prepared to “leave bodies in the street” if it helped her own public image? The irony is lost on Harry that if anyone has left bodies in the street it’s him, with his unending attacks on his family — and he did it for filthy lucre. Now, though, he’s said that he’s not updating Sparefor the paperback edition and won’t be doing any interviews to publicise it. It may be true that stems from a desire not to further offend his family. But it may also be true that he’s told Meghan she can have all the content of the past 18 months for her own book, which she is said to be writing.
A good news story about him being welcomed back into the royal fold, and a photo of him introducing Princess Lilibet to King Charles for the first time wouldn’t go amiss either.
It’s nice to see Harry has family in the UK he can trust and who love and support him.
The lack of access seems to be frustrating the UK tabloids. Frankly, they are all over the place with their speculations and unnamed sources. Case in point: (sorry, can’t provide a gift link)
I think it’s sad that Harry has had the occasion to return to the U.K. what seems like a few times recently but they are all for funerals.
I love that he stayed at Althorp.
I’m not a die hard Royal person but it’s going to take a lot for me NOT to be Team Harry. I think that family is royally (pun intended) screwed up and to walk away from the mess you’ve always known and try to have a life that won’t ever be private, but you try to make it your own - well, I admire that.
For those of us in a certain age group who watched Princess Diana’s funeral, I don’t think there will ever be a time that we don’t have a soft spot for Prince Harry. He occupies the same kind of role that JFK Jr. did in that respect - we all wanted to wrap our arms around that little boy and protect him.
Regardless of the media circus around him and Meghan, Prince Harry has already broken so many patterns of repression and trauma by being himself, and he’s done a beautiful thing with the Invictus Games.
I’d have more sympathy if he’d just walked away and started his new life. It’s the book and all the accusations that bother me. He had the right to tell his story, but in doing so also told a lot about the others, embarrassing things that really didn’t need to be shared.
I think he got invited to stay with Diana’s family because he didn’t include them in Spare.
Maybe there was no reason to “include” them - assuming that is language for not dissing them??
He and his wife are celebrities in multiple ways - family history, their work, etc. They can’t walk away and live their life “quietly”. It’s HIS life, HIS emotions. We don’t get to tell him how or when to express them. Therapy from emotional scars happens in more ways than in a chair at the therapist office.
This thread will always be two sided. We can probably all agree on that!
I get that Harry feels he was mistreated and was entitled to air his grievances and grief, so he did that with the book and interviews and podcasts. Yep, his right to do what he needed to do. But he had to know there would be a cost and that those he felt had wronged him in the past wouldn’t just ignore the accusations in the book and act like nothing was ever said.
From the beginning, before the book, the palace was pretty clear they weren’t going to agree to any terms, that Harry was all in or all out, and he picked out. I do not think he realized what that emotional cost was going to be for him (or his kids) as time went on. He is missing so much of the royal family life, not just the immediate family but birthday parties and weddings and Wimbledon and Ascot - the fun stuff. He gets to go to funerals. I really don’t think William will ever forgive him and William is going to be totally in charge, so if Harry doesn’t work this out with his father, it’s over.
Of course he can build a different life in California, either very private or very public. I don’t think he’ll be able to have a life in England in the way he may still want to. Not sure how his friends are treating him, if they are inviting him to weddings and parties.
Leaving royal life and the UK was unpopular enough but the book and interviews/Netflix documentary kind of burned any shred of what might have remained of any bridge back to the family. He absolutely had a right to tell his story the way he wanted to tell it, but he also has to live with the consequences.
He & Meghan could have lived their lives without the book and documentary. To me, that is nothing but a blatant slap in the face to the RF. Again, I don’t doubt that royal life is difficult or that the family did bad things (as was well documented by Diana). I applaud Harry’s courage to write about it but don’t expect to be welcomed back with open arms.
At this point, they only way back may be if he leaves Meghan and begs for forgiveness.
I always read that Harry & the Spencer family had a good relationship - that they were obviously sympathetic given what Diana endured - so him staying with them is not a surprise.
Who is the victim as far as we know? Who has revealed mental health issues to deal with?
And any family that will only take you back if you leave your wife and family (the kids can’t be both places at once!) is a family not worthy of having ANYONE back.
Which ones? The ones about the book and documentary are factual, as they already took place. The part about the Spencers having a soft spot for Harry?
The statement about Meghan is speculation, obviously, so you can disagree as you wish, but the general consensus is that she is not well regarded by some family members and certainly by some of the UK public as she is seen as the catalyst for Harry leaving the RF. Again, louder for those in the back - I am not discounting all they’ve been through but they can’t write a scandalous book and expose racism in the RF and expect to be able to go back like nothing happened.
Any family who is getting a free pass for being racist - even to someone who is family by marriage - by their community or followers deserves nothing but criticism.
What a sorry lot. Harry has done his share of going off the rails but as the youngest of the family it might seem with his good work projects that the youngest actually did the most “growing up” and dealing with the messy place in the family he was given.
Apologies above of those weren’t your thoughts and if they were more so what you feel is general consensus. If they are your thoughts, I stick by my post !
Here’s what I don’t get: why should Prince Harry and Meghan’s four-day tour in Colombia be funded by that amount by the Colombian taxpayer at all? Prince Harry and Meghan are private citizens, albeit famous ones. Is it common for governments to spend that kind of money on something like this trip? For all I know it is - truly - but I just don’t quite get the purpose here.
I guess Colombia got publicity. (Unfortunately not all positive.) And, legitimate question, what else?
Admittedly small sample: a friend lives in Colombia and my daughter’s mother-in-law hails from Colombia and still maintains a house there. Both were kinda baffled by the why and wherefore of the “tour.”
It’s anyone’s guess. An invitation was extended and it was accepted. Do “we” need to understand the purpose? Obviously both parties deemed it worthwhile or else the visit wouldn’t have occurred.
The scrutiny/criticism (imo) is mostly generated by the UK tabloids/media. I believe these “news” outlets need to tread cautiously. The continuous negative spin is growing tiresome. The joy seen from the athletes to the students with whom Harry and Meghan met was uplifting.
(“Unfortunately, not all positive”). One can always find something to nitpick Do we really expect perfection? Should we?
Personally, I suspect the negativity not only originates from the UK media, but is a reaction to the threat of its possible repercussions to the established order. Comparisons will undoubtably occur when the royal family starts making international tours again. It must be causing some stress when people see Harry and Meghan receiving warm receptions…and at no cost to UK taxpayers!