Does everyone have their popcorn ready for Harry & Meghan?

They have become part of the culture war. From the linked article:

“I think that everything the Sussexes do is more or less framed by those who see them as the embodiment of ‘woke’,” said Ivor Gabor, professor of political journalism at Britain’s University of Sussex, using the popular term for socially progressive attitudes on matters from race to gender.

“They’re very good targets for those who wish to denounce what they see as their values.”

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This is the best explanation I have seen so far. As somebody who doesn’t share their political views, I can see why they can be irritating to some, but I still can’t imagine this much hate directed at people just because the have different political views.

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@skieurope I know, it’s a Murdoch publication but believable…Harry & Meghan's NYC 'car chase' happened because they were too cheap to pay for hotel: source

That’s exactly what they did.

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That does not sound believable. Edited to Add: there is literally no proof in the entire article that an alleged attempt to get a huge discount on an expensive hotel ever happened. I don’t count unknown “source” as evidence.

I wish I could be shocked that people are blaming victims for staying with friends and considering their friend’s privacy as part of their decision to go to a police station while being stalked by paparazzi.

Staying with friends on the Upper East Side doesn’t sound cheap, it sounds like you have friends that care enough to host you.

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Yes, but that important detail was not known at the time I posted (look at the time stamp :slight_smile: ). Only that it was a dangerous 2-hr chase, as all news outlets have been reporting.

I will post this without comment.

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I don’t think they went to the closest station but only after about an hour (or more if you believe their 2 hour timeline).

I don’t blame them for wanting to shake the paps before going to their friend’s home but I’d think they’d be better at knowing how to do it. Some experts in security said that often celebs traveling through NYC arrange to have their cars pull into hotels and then exit out the back or through a garage exit and that works.

They have the right to come and go to events in the most public way, but then they have to expect the paparazzi to be at the front door, to want to take their pictures, to want to know where they are staying. The paparazzi are doing their jobs and that’s to get the ‘best’ pictures and the inside info on where they are staying. H&M don’t like that, so they should make other arrangements - like tons of other celebs do that don’t want to be followed.

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No idea of the veracity. But it really is immaterial. My earlier response applies:

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Again, enough with the car chase story. It’s been chewed more that a labrador’s chew toy.

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Out of pure curiosity, may I ask the moderator’s why the ‘car chase’ is off limits? The thread itself was created (and approved) to talk about the ‘drama’ of H&M. I understand moderating to keep commentary civil, but I am not following the intent of moderating content on an already ‘off-topic’ (meaning not college) thread that appears to fit within the thread title.

Respectfully, the ‘car chase’ story is certainly still evolving, and does that not warrant ‘popcorn?’

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I was wondering the same. I’m not really interested anymore, but others obviously are. As long as there is respectful discourse, I don’t see the problem with discussing it as it is an H&M topic. It will naturally die down.

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It wasn’t respectful. A moderator had to delete posts. People dug in their heels and discussion was no longer fruitful.

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I fully expect this post to be deleted, but banning the words “car chase” in a thread about H&M reminds me of Archie banning Edith from saying “cling peaches.” :rofl:

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Oh, I see. As I said, I wasn’t that interested anymore and just skipped over the posts.

Breaking news :wink:

Wiki reference was to answer assumption about Kate’s job for family business. See earlier posts for answer to other assumption.

Shouldn’t this count as harassment and endangerment of them and others? Why paps are even allowed to harass celebrities like this?

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I agree it seems like harassment and endangerment, but it is a judgment call.

Why isn’t something done? Because of several reasons in my opinion. The first two that come to mind are the money that can be made off of paparazzi photos and the belief by many that it comes with being a celebrity…some would even argue the “paparazzi targets” enjoy the attention. Consequently it’s easy to look the other way.

Also, realize that there are much more pressing issues that need to be addressed, here and abroad. Frankly, it (Harry and Meghan’s privacy/protection) isn’t a high priority, nor should it be.

However, Harry pushing back on the personal intrusions is interesting to me. Will he be successful in curbing the most egregious intrusions? Time will tell.

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This is a more straightforward perspective but surprisingly not a favorable ending.