Does NYU Poly require Calculus?

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<p>Okay, I am a Junior and I have doubled up in math this year, I’ve taken Algebra2/Trig and PRe-Calculus. I also did Math Team, the last semester. Next year, I plan to take AP Statistics because the class is pretty easy, at least that’s what I heard. </p>

<p>I want to be an engineering major, I’m a decent math student with about an 80 average in math but honestly, it’s due to my inconsistent homework and lack of studying. </p>

<p>Anyways, I’m basically wondering what I should do next year. I think I want to be a computer engineer, like a web developer knowing php or C++. </p>

<p>I want to get into NYU Poly and currently have an 85 average, which is 3.0 out of 4.0 in my school. My math cumulative average is 80 and my Science is 86. Please give me some advice and information.</p>

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<p>Take calculus because it will make it easier for you in college. Also get out of the habit of taking the easiest route through life. That isn’t the way to succeed. Finally, look up what a computer engineer is. That isn’t how you become a web developer or programmer. Heck, for many of those jobs touring even need a 4-year degree.</p>

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<p>The calculus isn’t required since that’s what your first college math class will probably be, but I would take it over statistics if you plan on going into engineering since calculus is required and statistics isn’t. It’s up to you though, but I would only take statistics if you were really interested in it rather then because it’s easy.</p>

<p>If you want to get into programming computer science would be better then computer engineering.</p>

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<p>I think statistics is pretty useful in real life. I am not sure statistics is required for all engineering (maybe not every program), but as far as I know for EE you need Statistics and Probability (probability for the most part). So if you are going to study CpE you will have to take a probability course. Whether you can use your AP credits to get credits for the course or not, you have to ask NYU-Poly.</p>

<p>Just take high school physics and maybe get into a high school calculus (you don’t necessarily have to get into AP Calculus). If you can, definitely take AP Calculus. It’s up to you. </p>

<p>Computer Engineers do a lot of things. The basic idea is that you learn the EE aspects of computer (that is, programmable devices), whereas a standard EE curriculum will also introduce you to broader topics of electrical engineering. Generally speaking you will be taking the core courses of EE at the minimum. The CS side of CpE depends on the perspective of the program, and in this case NYU-Poly also balances out both EE and CS. In another word you are basically taking as many core courses as EE and CS major. </p>

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<p>If you look at Data Analysis I and II it’s actually probability and statistics class. </p>

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Sure you can write an application with C++. Writing a web application in C++ is not rare at all. It may not be the best language to use. If you want to write something quick there are many alternatives. You can start learning some basic C++ right now. I favor C++ for beginners as opposed to the norm that Python for beginners because soon or later you will sit in front of your computer for hours and still have no idea what goes wrong with your code. A famous line said “90% debugging, 10% writing bugs”. So if you can’t handle the so-called "turture of C++ because it looks complicated and difficult, you will find the same in Python, and I will guarantee that. </p>

<p>From my experience I used to spend a couple days just to understand how a while loop works and what loop invariants are. I did many trials and traced the results trial by trial on papers. I still haven’t mastered my C++ skill yet; and this summer I am eager to improve my skill. </p>

<p>Furthermore, as an engineering student and computer engineering student you will most likely get to see at least one mathematical language, and usually it’s MATLAB. So when you graduate from your engineering program you can expect to know a few programming languages under your belt. </p>

<p>Writing a web site is pretty fun. It isn’t as straightforward as some people claim to be. Nowadays we are not just talking about dynamics contents, but efficiency, sustainability, and usability. You can write a complex system from scratch but how do you maintain your project? How do you let future developers to take care of the project? How do you secure your data? There are web frameworks to help you develop a website quickly, and some popular ones are written in PHP, Java, Python, Ruby. </p>

<p>Beside web site you can also use some of those frameworks to help you write your web apps. You can learn Java and write android apps. HTML5 is the future but most of today’s website are still written in the simpler HTML; and HTML5 won’t take away the old HTML. HTML5 comes with a “library” of cool features which are revolutionary. If you are interested in HTML5, you can go to Youtube and watch the Google 2011 IO. In the future it is expected to make URL serves for a purpose.
I can continue and tell you about crowdsourcing. It’s actually something really cool that makes the IT field more interesting right now.
Just spend some time surfing the net :]</p>

<p>So yeah. Enjoy your high school life! K.</p>

<p>PS: I am not trying to badmouth NYU-Poly, but it seems to me they accept every good student they can get. They used to spam my mailbox until I became a sophomore. I am now a rising Junior. I know their admission bar has increased due to the annexation of NYU, but you are in good standing, based on ur statistics.</p>

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<p>If you have to choose between AP Calculus and AP Statistics, choose AP Calculus (preferably BC). AP Calculus is often accepted for subject credit, allowing you to take more advanced math courses and effectively opening up elective space in your university schedule (since you did not have to take one or two semesters of freshman calculus). AP Statistics is usually not accepted for subject credit, since many majors that require statistics require a calculus-based course.</p>

<p>Also, an admissions officer looking at an applicant who was on the math team and intends to major in engineering might wonder why the applicant did not take calculus when it was available.</p>

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<p>I second taking AP Statistics. It would be a good foundation.</p>

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<p>Take AP Calc or some form of Calculus. You will have to take 3 Semester of Calculus and Ordinary Differential Equations. I believe that it is important to see a little bit of calculus in high school because college classes go through the material at a fairly quick pace.</p>

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<p>I seriously can’t decide. I mean, even though I’m a math tutor and am in the math team, I’m still not as smart as some of my friends (or people in the math team). I am not in the math honor society either, the only thing that killed my average was foreign language, which is my worst average at like 73 -.- everything else is over 80. My best class, happened to be history, with a cumulative average of 96+ I’ve take AP US History and have gotten full marks (meaning 103.4 averaged in to my social studies for the last 2 semesters). </p>

<p>Anyways, although I think my best class is history, I don’t want to do anything history… because honestly, I’d rather be working with computers. </p>

<p>I currently run several blogs and forums. For example, I’ve had a high traffic forum but it closed due to problems with hosting but I still have a blog on web hosting (which is sponsored by a web hosting provider and still running strong). I also have done online work for couple of people to make some money on the sidelines and plan to do this exact thing, this summer. </p>

<p>Honestly, I think my dream job would be something with computers, if not web developer, at least a system admin or technology related business (such as web hosting, web design, online security). </p>

<p>Please give more more advice and thanks to everyone who responded! I’m first in my family to go to a US college, because me and my parents immigrated to the US in 2000. I’m so lost but want to make the best of everything.</p>

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<p>It sounds like you might want to go into CS instead of CpE. Either way though I would take calculus over statistics. Just from my experiences as a CS undergrad and now a ECE grad student.</p>

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<p>CS is computer science I’m guessing?</p>

<p>Which is very flexible? also, which has more demand in the industry. </p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

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<p>Don’t decide right now. I guess you are a rising Junior?
Keep exploring :]</p>

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<p>Looking at NYU-Poly’s CS curriculum, you will take Data Analysis (probability and statstics) in that program. Those course will require calculus as a prerequisite so have a strong foundation in calculus.</p>

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<p>NYU Poly CS requirements: [Curriculum</a> - Computer Science, BS | NYU-Poly](<a href=“Home | NYU Tandon School of Engineering”>Home | NYU Tandon School of Engineering)</p>

<p>NYU Poly AP Credit: [Advanced</a> Placement (AP) Credit | NYU-Poly](<a href=“Home | NYU Tandon School of Engineering”>Home | NYU Tandon School of Engineering)</p>

<p>Note that a 4 or 5 on AP Calculus AB counts for MA 1024 / Calculus I, and a 4 or 5 on AP Calculus BC counts for MA 1024 / Calculus I and MA 1124 / Calculus II, the latter of which is a prerequisite for the required MA 2212 / Data Analysis I and MA 2222 / Data Analysis II courses.</p>

<p>However, AP Statistics gives no subject credit for a CS major at NYU Poly.</p>

<p>This is likely to be similar at most other universities for CS majors.</p>

<p>So take AP Calculus (BC if available).</p>

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<p>Social Studies person who enjoys math too? Have you ever considered an economics career? Well, whether you plan on doing engineering or econ, calc would definitely be better.</p>

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<p>I don’t really enjoy math, but I don’t hate it. </p>

<p>Anyways, I want to double up but these are the classes I’m taking next year, which is my senior year. </p>

<p>AP Physics (I hope i did okay on the Physics regents).</p>

<p>AP Statistics </p>

<p>AP English</p>

<p>AP Economics </p>

<p>AP physics is two periods. </p>

<p>Please advice, thank you!</p>

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<p>AP Physics B (which is implied since you are not taking calculus) and AP Statistics are generally regarded as two of the easier and less useful for subject credit AP courses and tests. Take AP Physics C and AP Calculus instead if you want a better chance of useful subject credit.</p>

<p>Economics majors typically need to take calculus and (usually calculus-based) statistics. Those planning for graduate school in economics need to take more math than that.</p>

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<p>The Physics regent shouldn’t be that hard. I have to admit, however, the standard of the physics regent is relatively harder than it used to be a couple years ago.</p>

<p>Yes. Definitely get AP English and AP Economics. You can probably use those to substitute for your general ed requirements:</p>

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You have to find out which one you are taking.</p>

<p>AP Physics is a gotcha. If you are hoping to get out of Physics I you need to take Physics C exam in addition to Physics B exam, which is an extra booklet during the AP exam. Many schools in NYC do not teach Physics C because it is difficult to find teachers that can teach both B and C. What high school do you go to?</p>

<p>As others have said: you probably can’t use Statistics for any good so there is no reason why you should be taking it unless you want to explore your choice of career. However, given that any AP class is heavy, it may be a good idea to drop Statistics and allow yourself to enjoy your senior year. </p>

<p>Does your school offer high school Calculus, if you can’t get into AP Calculus now?</p>

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<p>I go to a public High School in NYC, which only offers AP Physics B, no C. The Physics department is horrible actually, according to others and that’s what I think too. </p>

<p>Physics regents was kinda hard for me because I started off really well then gotta lazy. My friends for some reason think I’m the best when it comes to Physics and should get a 85+ but at this point, I’m hoping for something in the 70s and actually to pass.</p>

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<p>Oh also, I would like to know if I even have a chance at NYU Poly. </p>

<p>My current average is an 85 (my school only goes up to 95 due to some weird grading process). My GPA is 3.0/4.0 and the challenging courses I’ve taken thus far are probably honors Global History, AP US History, and Physics… plus Pre Cal and Trig together this year.</p>

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<p>You have to make a decision on whether you want to continue with AP Physics or not. Normally Physics B is taught without calculus, but my teacher was willing to go a step further and slipped in some calculus once in a while, but it was still not enough for some classmates to appreciate the difference. I didn’t complete AP Physics because of health issue (which is a lame excuse), but I just completed my Physics sequence so I think it is fair to say that most of the mechanics problems I solved did not really require any understanding or appreciation of calculus. The fact that calculus makes the concepts easier to understand is because it is hard to illustrate and to derive every formulas using just algebra. Some concepts require calculus. </p>

<p>The point is you can request to take the additional exam but you have to learn the material on your own. Beside that you need a 4 at least to get credits for Mechanics at POLY. I would not mind to stay in the class because it is a good preparation. The problems that you will solve in colleges are just variations of your non-calculus problems. Supposed you are given a problem to find the position at which a construction platform can maintain its equilibrium position, such problem can be solved by understanding the three laws of motions and by the concepts of “vectors”, or “components”. In another word, you will solve these problems again in your calculus-based Mechanics exactly the same way, although a few problems might require some simple calculus techniques. </p>

<p>In fact, in Mechanics you only need the concepts of limits, the techniques of derivatives of anti-derivatives to do well. If I were you, I’d dropped Stat and try to get into high school calculus. It’s better than Stat. </p>

<p>Summary: take high school calculus and AP Physics will prepare you for your first two years of college :]</p>

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<p>I said it in the first reply - from my experiences NYU-Poly will accept every good student they can get. It is a private school at the end, although the annexation of NYU did increase the bar. Please don’t just limit yourself to NYU-Poly. There are other schools that maybe better for you (and financially - tuition rate, scholarship offers). Even Stony Brooks has rejected some talent students (my friends). So it isn’t rare that a 4.0GPA will get rejected by NYU-Poly, but the chance is very low. I think as long as you maintain a good GPA (work harder), good LOR, and show that you are eager for the program, your will increase your chance of getting a bigger financial package. </p>

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<p>The MATH route is like what I did - I took Math B (guess you are too young to know what Math B is… not sure) with pre-calculus. Yeah :] Now NYC removed MATH A and B, and has decided to go back to the old Algebra, Geometry, Advanced algebra, routes.</p>