Some folks didn’t consider jazz or the blues music either. Radio stations would only play it if it was stolen by the right shade of people…
Not a fan of it myself, but then again I am an old fart (though I did get to meet one of the older generation of rap stars, Doug E Fresh, in the World Trade Center path station at around 2 in the morning about 4am, I was coming back from work, he either had shot a video or was heading to shoot one). As far as the lyrics, a lot of it is angry, it is misogynistic, ir can be crude, but who is kidding who, so has been a lot of pop music and other forms over the years. I think there is rap that is commercial crap that is pap produced to get an instant reaction, but that is true of all music, too, lot of inane, stupid music has been produced, but there is also rap that though I don’t like the form, has people actually thinking about what they do and is creative (my son, the music snob, shocked me in recent years telling me some of the rap music he finds interesting, this from a kid growing up would scream if we put on soft rock music:). The people who created rap basically took a need to create music, that is in people, and found a way to do it when they didn’t have other outlets, as a woman I worked with who was quite artistic, it was created by kids in the Bronx and other inner city areas where they didn’t exactly have much in the way of school music programs, instruments, access to teachers and so forth, so they created their own form, much as the blues and jazz originally were forms created well outside ‘music norms’, they were combinations of older music forms, often put together by people who created them out of what they had, jazz combined African rhythms probably passed down through folk music and such with western music forms (one of the few good things about laws forbidding mixed music down in the jim Crow belt was that black musicians who had music training in classical music ended up mixing with black musicians who were versed in the early blues songs, ragtime, gospel and folk music, and it created jazz). I used to think Rap wasn’t music, but over time I realized they created something new and I simply didn’t recognize it as such.
As Ellington said, there are only two kinds of music, good music and bad music, and it is pretty easy to see which is which. Put it this way, being immersed in classical music because of my son, there is a lot of ‘serious’ music, ie modern classical music, that fails the ellington test whereas there is Rap music that doesn’t, pure and simple.
So i’ll elaborate before I chase you off my lawn.
I am not going to listen to any type of music where the lyrics advocate violence, sexist or racist behavior. There are songs I listened to before I had kids that I don’t listen to now because of my earlier stated reason.
It’s a choice I made.
@musicprnt I absolutely love Doug E Fresh, if his song the "The Show"comes on, anyone my age, knows all of the words, it was like an anthem.
I mainly don’t like the n-word variant bandied about. Otherwise, I’m ok with it, generally.
I loved Eminem during the Slim Shady phase.
Yes, rap bothers me. I don’t like most of the beats, I don’t understand much of the lyrics. I have no interest in giving it a chance.
My kids never listened to rap.
My radio is tuned to a rock station. Just saw an Everclear concert. So I’d like to think I’m still open to new stuff. Just don’t…like…rap.
Rap music with violent, misogynistic lyrics played in the school cafeteria during lunch when the students cannot leave. I am not a fan. I got nowhere with suggesting that they really needed to stop that.
I support people’s right to listen to whatever they want to, in private or in public venues provided that people who don’t want to listen to it can leave.
Love Fetty Wap, but I don’t think it’s pies that he’s cookin.
@flyaround Shh… 
Cocaine or apple pie. He made it with love.
No but it doesn’t bother me but it does bother my husband. It only bothers me when the car next to me turn it on so loud that I have to hear it. I turn my music on just as loud to prove a point.
“Get off my lawn” - ha. That was a good movie!
I despise rap music. It’s vulgar, sexist, and all sounds the same. It isn’t music at all. It’s noise.
No matter how much you despise it, you cannot factually say “rap isn’t music.”
It’s easy to devalue anything for any reason, IMO. My music taste is ABC (Anything But Country) and I do like some rap. In another time and place with a different upbringing Eminem could have been Shakespeare. With the right (or wrong) inflection or intent ma’am could sound like b***h
“Some folks didn’t consider jazz or the blues music either. Radio stations would only play it if it was stolen by the right shade of people…”
I don’t care for jazz or the blues, but I can certainly appreciate the musicality behind them. There was plenty of musicality behind 60s Motown, Smokey Robinson, Diana Ross and the Supremes, Marvin Gaye, the Isley Brothers, etc. Michael Jackson was extremely musically talented. Today’s rap artists? Very little musicality at all. Structurally and melodically simplistic. Not impressed, especially when there are so many talented young artists working today.
I rarely listen to rap by choice, but when I do I often find it clever and catchy. I do feel like an old fart for not liking it. I’m not convinced it’s any worse than the Rolling Stones (“Under my thumb” is a great song!) I like it best in what I guess is the more hip hop version - where you’ll have bits of more tuneful stuff interspersed or overlapping the rap bits. I’ve made an effort to be educated by my younger son. And his best friend who has a band which has gone in a more rap direction.
Have you guys seen this before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3DL82xBu6U
Not music. It’s how I sound when I cant find my car keys. I’d be angry too if I had to listen to it all day long. It’s not helping anybody.
Yes, a lot of these lyrics do bother me. Too raunchy. Just unpleasant. Not at all the kind of music I enjoy. I manage to avoid it. My kids (boys and girls) don’t like it either, so we’ve never had any disagreement or discussion about it.
Since I like (need) harmony and melody I don’t have any time for rap. I have little enough time to listen (okay, sing with) the music I like. No time left for rap, or for that matter, jazz.
She was a fast machine she kept her motor clean
She was the best damn woman that I ever seen
She had the sightless eyes telling me no lies
Knocking me out with those American thighs
Taking more than her share
Had me fighting for air
She told me to come but I was already there
Cause the walls start shaking
The earth was quaking
My mind was aching
And we were making it
And you shook me all night long
Yeah you shook me all night long
I’m working double time on the seduction line
She’s one of a kind she’s just mine all mine
Wanted no applause it’s just another course
Made a meal outta me
And come back for more
Had to cool me down to take another round
Now I’m back in the ring to take another swing
Cause the walls were shaking the earth was quaking
My mind was aching
And we were making it
And you shook me all night long
Yeah you shook me all night long
Knocked me out I said you
Shook me all night long
You had me shaking and you
Shook me all night long
Yeah you shook me
When you took me
You really took me and you
Shook me all night long
You shook me all night long
Yeah, yeah, you shook me all night long
You really got me and you
Shook me all night long
Yeah you shook me
Yeah you shook me
All night long