Does Rap Music Lyrics Bother You?

@Pizzagirl That’s the beauty of the world in the world we live in, you have choices. If someone pointing out a trend makes you feel like you have to succumb to the trend, not sure where you got that and I don’t know how to help you. But anywho, I am not someone who believes all music or their artists must stand the test of time. It may be junk food, but I like junk food from time to time when I’m not snacking on some snap peas and salmon. :slight_smile:

@Vladenschlutte The song you linked is reminding me of a mid 2000s song and it’s been bothering me non-stop! Something in there just…sounds familiar.

Yep, it’s a great world where we have choices! You don’t ever think that that kind of music / lyrics coarsens the world a least a little bit?

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It’s not hard to find rap songs with inoffensive lyrics, or even without expletives. Conversely, none of the obscene stuff mentioned here is limited to rap music. I’m not really sure how to respond to people who use articles like “Top 10 Dirtiest Rappers” to make judgements about the genre as a whole.

Cool! Well, even leaving aside dirty lyrics, I’m not a major fan of a genre of music that doesn’t really rely on either melody or harmony and just mostly the beat. I also appreciate artists who have the skill to write, sing and play their instruments, and a lot of these rappers appear to be just doing the singing, with a gaggle of musicians and producers behind them.

I understand that this isn’t you, PG, but for many people who might take that view as well but listen to radio friendly pop music that argument wouldn’t hold much water. Most pop music is written by someone else (much of it by the same person) and completely reliant of session musicians and production value. That mechanism for creating a song isn’t confined to any one genre and isn’t the calling card of rap.

I get it if you like the singer/songwriter thing. I’m just arguing against the exclusivity of that as it relates to musical categories.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/03/26/the-song-machine

I’m glad this was so easy to find . . . I remembered it from when it came out. A sentence near the end of the piece caught my eye just now in the re-read:

“Stargate was nominated for record of the year (Katy Perry’s “Firework”) and rap song of the year (Wiz Khalifa’s “Black and Yellow”)”

Interesting article. Thanks.

Gee, I don’t know. If 99% of country songs relate to freedom or patriotism or country living or cheating BF’s and GF’s then one might say it’s reasonable to generalize about what country music is or is not.

And if 50% of rap/hip hop relates to thug or gang life and putting X into Y, as Pizza Girl so memorably said, then I’d say it’s kind of reasonable to generalize about what R/HH music is or is not. The difference isn’t just the music it is the raunchiness and lack of creativity. I really don’t want to hear about T, A and P blatantly. It crosses a line there somewhere. But, having said that, I won’t write off the entire type of music just because some of it is bad.

I can respect the parts that are good or, at the very least, respect that some people appreciate it more than I do. I think R and HH, from what I can tell, which isn’t much I admit, is trending into more legit music/lyrics and creativity and less just some guy talking directly into the microphone and occasionally rhyming.

Biologically speaking, shouldn’t it be “putting Y into X”? :wink:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-hip-hop-is-becoming-the-oldies.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-middle-span-region&region=c-column-middle-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-middle-span-region