Doing more than 40 pushups in a row associated with fewer future cardiovascular events

Can you do more than 40 pushups in a row?

https://www.livescience.com/64789-pushups-men-heart-health.html
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2724778

Among male firefighters, those who could do more than 40 pushups in a row had 96% fewer cardiovascular events than those who did could do 10 or fewer.

The result should not be that surprising, but a pushup test may be a much less costly way than things like treadmill tests for physicians to assess physical fitness for the purpose of medical decision making. (Of course, in the US, would a lower cost medical procedure actually be used?)

Huh? Cost? Medical procedure? ? How often a treadmill test is actually being used to assess one’s health?

hmm… I used to be able to do 40…until my rotator blew. No more. Hoping my cardiovascular events don’t go up…

I also thought that treadmill tests were used for patients with suspected specific conditions and not as a general screen for good health.

A more interesting question (not answered by article) would be - does increasing the number of pushups you can do lower your risk? The published results are correlational.

I guess I just flat lined.

This was a very limited study with a narrow range of age, sex and fitness. They were all firefighters for crying out loud. Not sure why it got the publicity it did, and don’t think it means much to the rest of us. Of course fit people are less likely to have heart attacks, but this study didn’t add much to that understanding.

If I tried to do 40 pushups I would have a cardiovascular event.

How many middle-aged men can do 11 or more pushups? For the screening test to be useful, the number would have to be pretty big, otherwise you wouldn’t be screening out very many people.

A pushup test wouldn’t be a useful screening test for middle-aged women.

Totally absurd study. Within a decade or so, we will have cheap and reliable PRS scores for cardiovascular risk factors that are better than anything we have now for identifying individuals at risk. See, e.g., here for just a glimpse at where this is all going:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41588-018-0183-z
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/CIRCGEN.117.001856
https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2018/08/13/a-harvard-scientist-thinks-he-has-a-gene-test-for-heart-attack-risk-he-wants-to-give-it-away-free/#4f2092c25959

After I read that, I did 2 sets of 41 just to be sure.

I love how this thread appeared just above the Cake Challenge thread on my page :))

Yeah. If I do 10 sissy pushups on my knees I would be sore. And probably reward myself with a cupcake!

My old “PE Nazi” PE teacher probably feels vindicated! 40 was the magic number girls had to do in one minute to get an automatic A in one PE module. For the dudes, it was significantly fewer - but they had to do chin-ups ?!

Wow, @BunsenBurner - I didn’t know you were in my gym class!

Ridiculous study. My bet is less than 5% of the over 35 population can do 40 pushups in a row using the proper form that would count on a military pt test.

I bet it’s less than 0.5% for women over 35. Come to think of it, I bet it’s way less than 5% for men too. Who funds this nonsense?

I could do about 12 son approved push-ups when he got out of Officer Candidate School - as I recall it was good enough for my age group if I’d been at OCS. Unfortunately something weird is going on with my hands. Left had a week of what I assume was carpal tunnel pain (brace helped), now the right hand thumb base is sore, but in a different way. Can’t even do one push up until this resolves. Grrr.

If it’s so, I’m doomed. Altho as someone else pointed out, all the subjects were men, average age of 40, and firefighters. The researchers don’t know that these results would hold for women, or older people.

DH is 64 and can do 30. Now he says I’ve got him thinking about it and he’s going to work for 40! (Nobody believes him when he says he’s that old.)

Oh, as if! :))