<p>I think Cecil is a mamby pamby guy if he can’t just step up and forcibly separate two such illsuited kids. What’s the big deal? The son is plainly wrong and it time to impose some discipline. The whole thing has been going on much too long.</p>
<p>Interesting perspective.</p>
<p>You are probably right, if he is such a great parent, and his kids respect him to the Nth level, all he needs to say is SHE IS NOT WORTHY and the child will end it there and then.</p>
<p>If he is not Mamby Pamby he would do this and none of our opinions would matter.</p>
<p>Here’s another thought…</p>
<p>Sometimes there are reasons (besides the first one that comes to mind that a person might have an unhealthy interests in their child’s bf/gf). Say for instance a person is adopted. Because they don’t know what their biological parents or siblings look like, they might develop on excessive interest or curiousity in the looks or features of others. What they may not think about is that an “ugly duckling” in the adolescent stages of development might grow up to be a swan. Think Chelsea Clinton, for example. </p>
<p>So a person might have a reason for a preoccupation with teenage looks… or they might just be a superficial perv. Who knows…</p>
<p>I can’t help thinking about the movie “American Beauty”…kinda creepy…</p>
<p>jym - insightful comment. Cecil did say he was adopted, and if your theory is correct it makes me feel a little more sympathy for his many years spent in the shallow end of the pool.</p>
<p>I have also begun to suspect that, deep down, regardless of how well he believes he has raised his son, Cecil is worried that his son might just be using this girl for sex, and because of the “reality” Cecil sees when he views the world, he fears this girl will be very compliant (after all, she’s dating up - she should work extra hard to hold on to her prize). This is what makes this girl so scary to Cecil - she might not be the future daughter in law but she could be the future mother of grandchild #1. </p>
<p>If this is indeed your darkest fear Cecil - and should the unfortunate possibility become reality - I suggest you contact MTV right away, I’m sure it wouldn’t take much time for you to convince them that your family would be a big ratings draw on 16 and pregnant.</p>
<p>'m sure it wouldn’t take much time for you to convince them that your family would be a big ratings draw on 16 and pregnant.</p>
<p>I don’t watch tv- is that really a show?</p>
<p>EK - sure is! Best birth control I’ve seen in a long time.</p>
<p>16 and Pregnant is in fact one of MTV’s better efforts - and great motivation for birth control/sex ed.! </p>
<p>I can just picture Cecil mid-season looking through the nursery room glass and telling #1 son: I told you not to date her, look at that kid - it doesn’t even look human! Thousands of years of evolution just can’t lead to this - that dog won’t hunt!</p>
<p>It wouldn’t be the first time that an MTV parent came off less mature than the kid - but I’m sure Cecil would be one of the most entertaining immature adults, the proof being we just can’t stop reading this thread. He’s the funniest slow motion train wreck in quite a while…</p>
<p>To the poster who said, “It’s not like he’s going to marry her.” That’s what my grandmother said when my grandfather complained about my mother bringing my father home for lunch one day. My mother was 11 and my father was 13–and they just had their 58th wedding anniversary. Go figure.</p>
<p>16 and Pregnant and Teen Mom are the best shows to watch with your teenage DD. They actually show an edited real life through the process. 9 times out of 10 the girls find out that the guys bail or don’t step up to the table to the level the girls thought they would.</p>
<p>You can have the birth control talk with your child, but these shows really impact the kids. I am so glad MTV did this show. I give them credit even if they run the gambit from 16 and pregnant to My Super Sweet 16.</p>
<p>Lady,</p>
<p>I was the one who said that. I met Bullet at 18. We have been together for 27 yrs. I also dated another guy for 3 yrs from 14 to 17. Out of every sibling on both sides, every cousin on both sides, every aunt and uncle on both sides, we are the only couple that met this young, EXCEPT my in-laws, who met when she was 14 and he was 21.</p>
<p>There will always be exceptions to the rule, but in today’s society, 16 is very young, and I would not jump to the conclusion they would marry. When our parents married 60 yrs ago, it was common to marry at 18, not so much now.</p>
<p>Even if they do marry, it is his son’s choice, his son’s decision. If he believes he raised an intelligent child, than he needs to respect the fact that his son is making an intelligent decision when selecting a mate.</p>
<p>I actually think his child is more mature than him, because he doesn’t seem to select a mate based on vanity, his father does.</p>
<p>“he (the son) doesn’t select a mate based on vanity”</p>
<p>And Dad is doing everything in his power to change that. </p>
<p>I so wish we could counsel the girlfriend - run, run now, run as far and fast as you can, get away while your self esteem still has a fighting chance…</p>
<p>*This is where you’re off-track…Yes, each person needs to be attracted to their partner. BUT…and this is a big but…no one has to be considered attractive to their partner’s dad.</p>
<p>-No duh.</p>
<p>-She isn’t going out with me.</p>
<p>-But exactly where is it written that I can’t give my $.02 to MY son about who he dates? </p>
<p>…I love my wife for the way she is because I accepted her and whatever flaws she had when I met her and I felt comfortable with what I was getting when I got in.*</p>
<p>So…since this girl isn’t going out with YOU, why do you care how attractive she is to YOU???</p>
<p>You sound as if you prefer that your son date someone who will be eye candy around your house for you to enjoy. (ugh…just had a visual of gross old guy oogling son’s pretty GF)</p>
<p>Since when does it have to be “written” that parents need to “shut up” about the appearance of their son’s GF’s? Do you think that as long as there isn’t some kind of written rule, anything goes??? Do you realize that it’s not written anywhere that girlfriends can’t tell their boyfriends’ moms that these moms could do a lot better than their present husbands??? (Oh, I’d pay good money to watch your son’s GF tell your wife that your wife could do a whole lot better!) And…according to you, since it’s not “written” anywhere not to do say such a thing, it’s kosher! But, I’m sure that this GF has better manners than that.</p>
<p>I still can’t quite figure out if ACC’s 2 threads are some weird joke…</p>
<p>There’s a poster on CC–CC, that’s key–who tells us that he’s a hands on parent who sets high standards for his kids and then says that his just turned 16 year old son who he claims is smart is going to go to community college and then on to FSU, just like dear old dad. He’s also posted that he considers the Ivies “four year summer camps.” </p>
<p>Simultaneously, he tells us that his expectations for his son include dating a “hot girl” and that any parent who doesn’t admit that’s an expectation the parent has is dishonest. </p>
<p>Yeah, I know a lot of CC parents are obsessed with their kids getting into a top college. Is the idea of reversing the normal CC parental expectations for their kids some sort of parody?</p>
<p>let go! it may not meant to be anyway, so why to stress? At our age? no need to worry</p>
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<p>I thought of the opening sequence of Shallow Hal. In that scene Hal’s father, a reverend on his deathbed and under the influence of strong narcotics, tells his son:</p>
<p>“First, I want you to promise to never ever settle for average…second, don’t ever be satisfied with routine #$@&*. Don’t do what I did…I married for love… and your mother Betty has been a nightmare…”</p>
<p>Hal interrupts, “But Dad, Mom’s name is Mary.”</p>
<p>The Reverend continues:
“Listen to me, I’m giving you pearls here.”</p>
<p>“Third, find yourself a classic beauty with a perfect can and great totties. That will put you in good stead with the Lord. It’s all in here (holds up the Bible).” “Yes sir, hot young tail is what it’s all about. Hot…young…tail…” </p>
<p>He dies and his son sniffles, nods his head, and with tears in his eyes, vows “I’ll make you proud Papa.”</p>
<p>Hey, I just noticed something. Once I chastised our OP on his other thread for not knowing how to properly quote he stopped posting. Then I offered a link on this thread to show him how to quote and he hasn’t posted since that time.</p>
<p>He is clearly not a kid. Kids are so much better than we are at this stuff. He likes to be provocative and stir things up - but he is not so good at the technology aspect. </p>
<p>I hate to credit myself with anything - but could I have scared him away???</p>
<p>By the way, if you are reading this - I do think the OP brought up some legitimate points. Life is kinder to those who are beautiful. There is plenty of research to back up that point. What is troubling is a parent who would belittle a child who happens to see beyond those superficial qualities.</p>
<p>aCCecil also posts in high school life.</p>
<p>^ He’s giving flirting tips to HS girls. Does anyone else find this seriously creepy?</p>
<p>^^just takes the creepy quotient up a bunch of notches…</p>
<p>wonder if the internet police monitor this site…hmmmmmmmm</p>
<p>Ok I have to say I have a bazillion posts & I have never even looked in high school life ( or thought to)- that is seriously yucky. 
:p</p>