Downton Abbey

I think she meant that she despises that Edith is ‘hiding’ her motherhood of Marigold.

I think we’re in for another financial crisis. There was a lot of foreshadowing with the sale of the neighbor’s estate.

Edith is Marigold’s mother now, right? It’s not generally know that Edith is Marigold’s biomom, but she’s her mother.

I’m already tired of Anna and Bates.

Mrs. Hughes looked too thin and her hair was lighter. Did not like the changes.

Guessing Anna will now get pg as the stress will be gone.

@"Cardinal Fang “Edith is Marigold’s mother now, right? It’s not generally know that Edith is Marigold’s biomom, but she’s her mother.”

I think they still refer to Edith as the child’s benefactor. Her sister Mary still doesn’t know the truth. I feel sorry for the little girl having people whisper how lucky she is to be taken in. If only the series would last another fifteen seasons so we could see how well that turns out.

Will there be a replacement for Isis? Last season I remarked the dog still looked young but must be about twelve years old. As soon as I said that (binge watching) the dog took a turn. You may notice from my avatar I’m overly concerned with Labrador matters.

Was I the only one wondering how a couple of housemaids could clean a house that size?

Love this thread for all the varying opinions about DA! I generally liked Sunday’s episode – but have to say I didn’t really get the point of the whole bit about the chambermaid trying to blackmail Lady Mary. Unless, as someone up thread said, that wasn’t really the end of it. OTOH, I am SO glad to have the Anna & Bates situation resolved. This should have happened well before now.

Edith annoys me because Marigold has this entire family, and life, that is rightfully hers. To not be acknowledged because her mother doesn’t have a backbone makes me dislike Edith…especially in light of Mary getting ready to stand up to scandal.

It’s 1925, not 2015. In Edwardian days, a declared illegimate biological child had less economic & social opportunities than an adopted non-biological child.

The family is keeping it quiet as much for Marigold’s sake as for Edith’s.

One thing I wondered about was why the refrigerator that Robert asked about was so darn tiny. For a house that size, I with all those inhabitants, I would have expected the 1925 equivalent of a Subzero. Or two.

Well, ok then for Marigolds sake. I’m not entirely persuaded that is the reason Edith is keeping it quiet. I really think it’s for her own reputation.

Did Robert eat cold crispy fried chicken from the fridge? I cannot do that.

I can!

@conmama, you must be younger than me! I vividly recall being invited with my mom to the wedding of a friend’s older sister. This was about 1965, smaller Midwest town. I over heard one of my mother’s acquaintances questioning Mom’s judgment as regards attending the wedding and bringing me, then a grade school child. The bride had had a child out-of-wedlock about 5 years earlier. It was meant to be kept quiet, she had been whisked off to a “maternity home”, baby was given for adoption and no one was told - even the bride’s younger sister, my friend, had not been told why her sister “went away to school” for a semester.

I still don’t know the facts got around town, but it did to the detriment of the young woman’s reputation. There was definitely scandal over her later church wedding and people who wouldn’t attend because of her earlier “fall”.

The possibility of pregnancy was something my mother frequently brought up to me as the worst shame I could bring to the family. (Me, the goodie two-shoes who didn’t even have a steady boyfriend!) I can still her voice, “it would just kill your father!”

In my own family in the 1970’s, I had a cousin who had a baby after her divorce by a man who was not the one she had been married to. My grandmother, born in 1900 so raised approximately in Edith’s era, could not understand how such a thing could happen. Literally was unable to believe the facts of the situation, it was so far from her experience.

Not saying that these attitudes and judgments were positive, just that I can imagine how much worse things would have been in 1925 for mother and daughter.

You have a point, I do get it.

I’m glad that Edith will be moving to London with Marigold. It’s long overdue! She can live there with her child, be a publisher, and no one will care.

Scandal is a great motivator in this old, titled, society. Mary could have really told off the blackmailer, called in Anna as a witness, notified the whole staff of who she was and how she was not welcome, etc., but she didn’t. She hoped her frosty resolve would be enough to drive the woman away and keep things quiet. We could want Edith to claim her child, give her Gregson’s name, and live openly with her but she hasn’t even told her own sister! Instead, they created an elaborate fiction to quell rumors and it probably isn’t fooling many people.

I didn’t like Mrs. Hughes’ lighter hair either.

An actual lady of HIghclare castle was the illegitimate daughter of a Rothschild who acknowledged her and provided for her ‘royally’. But her mother was married to another man. Does this lessen the scandal?

I’m pretty sure that the refrigerator is so tiny because in 1925 there was no such thing as a bigger one. I’m guessing that this is the house’s first refrigerator - new and almost experimental innovation from their point of view. (Recall in the first season when they first installed electric lighting in the house - which Violet at first hated).

Thanks to the refrigerator’s size limits, I bet they still use the old icebox and still get regular deliveries from the ice man as their main means of keeping their perishable food. The tiny early refrigerators of the day will eventually grow in size and popularity and take over.

I think that in 1925 just owning a refrigerator was a pretty big deal and only for the very wealthy. In addition to the refrigerator discussion, I loved the discussion about Daisy’s impertinence and in reality she very well might have been dismissed but I especially loved Carson’s line about Guy Fawkes regretting blowing up Parliament after Cora speaks up on Daisy’s behalf and says she probably regrets what she said.