<p>I applied to Penn’s class of 2016 after receiving mail from them to consider applying. I rush-reported my SAT1, didn’t send my SAT2. I was rejected. Now, I’m curious. On the common app, they ask if you have applied to Penn previously but were rejected. I’m pretty sure I annoyed the regional admission counselor after sending overly long emails explaining why they wouldn’t receive my SAT2 on time. If I re-applied, there would be a very significantly improved difference in my application. Will the prior rejection hurt me, or will it be considered a no-factor if I applied ED? Just curious</p>
<p>Plenty of threads on CC and the wisdom of more senior posters repeatedly show that the likelihood of admission at these super selective schools is exceedingly poor after a prior rejection. Re-worked applications work much better at seemingly peer schools that are totally new picks.</p>
<p>Yes, it is likely that you would get the same regional admissions counselor unless there has been a change made. I don’t know if it hurts ones chance to be a re-applicant or not since these schools have such a low accept rate. As YaleGradandDad has stated, in some posts here on CC, it appears that those who have done this do better at other peer schools. Not enough info to make a firm statement about this but that is what it seems. </p>
<p>I do know a student who did get accepted to Columbia ED as a second try. Like you, he was disorganized and did not get his apps done well and did a sloppy job in his admissions work, and was straight out told by some college admissions folks and GCs. He decided to redo the process along with a gap year working on a project that was always of great interest to him. He was accepted ED to Columbia which did shock him, his family, and everyone as they all looked at it as a lottery ticket. He’s there right now, in his junior year. So it does happen.</p>
<p>Wow, thanks. I understand. Thanks for the info.</p>
<p>Does UPenn require SAT IIs? It’s possible you weren’t even considered because you didn’t fulfill that testing requirement.</p>
<p>SAT2 is a requirement, yeah</p>
<p>Since you didn’t fulfill the requirements, the rejection doesn’t say much about the strength of the rest of your application, suggesting that the only impact it really has is the fact that you were previously rejected.</p>
<p>Normally, that’s also an indicator of the strength of your (previous) application.</p>