Drop Math 53 or H53?

<p>Soooo....don't know what do do. The midterm for H53 was extremely easy, and only 50 mins - I messed up with algebra, so I'm assuming I'll be dealing with a bad curve :/, but the questions were really nice since the problem sets are torture. I am completely lost when it comes to the level of calc I think I'll see in the 53 midterm since H53 was so concepty (looking at what Neu said, and his old midterms), but the curve will be nicer there, and I'd like to think I'm not stupid...</p>

<p>Quizzes count in 53 -not in H53- and they aren't that bad, but bad enough (apparently I have the GSI that gives out the hardest tests, but he's insanely helpful):/ </p>

<p>No HW to turn in for 53. 5 problem sets (4% each), all proofs, in H53 and the last (first) one took close to 20hrs....I was exhausted the next day and didn't study for UGBA 10 because of it. </p>

<p>Any opinions? I'm double enrolled and have to drop one....trying to get into Haas and need to keep my GPA up. </p>

<p>I was thinking of a double major with applied math, so can I P/NP it for now...and then change it to a grade when I declare...which will be after Haas apps?</p>

<p>It's really hard to change a class from P/NP to letter grade, actually...</p>

<p>I'd recommend just taking 53 if you don't like math (as a field of study) all that much.</p>

<p>That's what I heard too...unless it's a major requirement (thinking of double major), so they would have to let me later when I say I want to declare math? Or am I being too optimistic....</p>

<p>You might be too optimistic. I mean – one way is to pretend you didn't realize it all along (even after declaring), and then in your last semester "suddenly" notice your mistake and ask them to change it, citing the need to graduate. In general, the university really wants people to graduate, and this is the only situation in which I've ever seen a successful retroactive P/NP to letter grade. But, of course, you run the risk of them not allowing you to change it...</p>

<p>I think, if you do 53, the curve should save your grade. If you're good enough to succeed in H53, that already puts you in the top 10% at least. Whether or not you eventually get your A depends on how much you can disengage yourself from the "distaste" of practicing boring, repetitive problems.</p>

<p>That's exactly what I was thinking >.< </p>

<p>Yeah - you probably are right haha. I'm just worried about bombing this midterm because H53 was so concepty that I hardly understand what regular 53 questions are asking for - while others seem to. For instance, our midterm was like "add vectors a and b. Add 2a + b. Find the dot product of a and b. Find the cross product of a and b. What is the tangent line of the polar function at (1,2)" - reallllyyyy straightforward. I've already gotten a 5/10 on an "easy" quiz in 53 (9 on another "hard" one I suppose, but still :/)</p>

<p>How do grades/averages usually play out? Any idea?</p>

<p>I would not count on being able to change P/NP to a letter grade on the basis of needing it for your major, especially if it would be for a second major if you already have one major.</p>

<p>If you really have a strong interest in majoring in math, the proofs in H53 will give you practice for upper division math courses like 104 and 113.</p>

<p>Darn. I guess that option is completely gone haha. </p>

<p>I do intend to do the proofs - just not "formally" and bound by a due date. I'll figure out how to do them, and not deal with the write up (which took 5ish hours on it's own) and little errors and stuff since, in all honesty, he doesn't expect formal "proofs," and hasn't even told us how to do them. It's more "show that...."</p>

<p>Thanks guys!</p>

<p>....again...any clue about how the averages end up playing out?</p>

<p>I took 53 over the summer so I'm not sure if I can comment on the averages with any authority.</p>

<p>stick with h53, you'll have more fun :) +it might be easier for certain brains than 53. the quizzes sound like a pain, and they were when i took 53. muhhh..</p>

<p>if you're in it for the gpa, maybe just take 53 idk. </p>

<p>hahaha...Let's say until I apply to haas in the fall, I'm in everything for the GPA lol so I guess 53 it is. I hope I can cram all the calc in one night T-T Say I do screw up this midterm...can I still pull off an A? </p>

<p>I'll go to h53 lectures and mess with the problem sets though...just for funsies :D but yeahhh....I got the "super easy" midterm back....let's just say 4*1=8. That should sum everything up.</p>

<p>On a side note, if any future honor's math people want to check out the problem sets, just let me know (wish I found someone before) haha I know you're out there...</p>