<p>So I’m an incoming freshmen at De Anza Community College in San Jose. I decided to take summer school and take math 41 (Pre-Calc I) because I thought that I needed to take it to get it out of the way. My plan is to transfer to Santa Clara University after 1 year of CC, and as it turns out, Pre-Calc I is not an admission required math class. They will accept it as a general ed class, but it is not an admission required math class, meaning I still have to take another specific math class in order to fulfill the admission requirement. I am about 1/4 of the way done with the 6 week summer school session and do not want to take a class that is pretty much useless. So my question is, should I drop the class with a “W” or just continue on with the summer school session? Thanks</p>
<p>Math 41 may not be a required or recommended class on SCU’s TAA with DA, but more advanced classes are. Math 41 is a prerequisite to be able to take some of those higher math classes, like Math 1A/B/C/D (the Calculus series).</p>
<p>So, it really depends on which school (A&S, Business, Engineering) at SCU that you want to transfer into. For example, if you’re trying to transfer into Engineering, then I’m pretty sure De Anza’s Math 1A/B/C/D series (or at least just A and B) are required or recommended to have completed as an incoming transfer. However, if you plan to transfer into A&S or Business, then De Anza’s Math 12 (Calc for Business and non science majors) would be on that list. A prerequisite for Math 12 is Math 11 (Finite Math) OR Math 41. Therefore, if you’ve placed into pre-calc (Math 41), then most likely you should also be able to register for Math 11. Completing either course will get you to 12.</p>
<p>So, technically, yes, you can drop, but in the future you will have to reregister for that course or Math 11. Since you’re in 41 now it would be best to finish it to get it out of the way and just take Math 12 (Math 10 may be required for Leavy School of Business as well, but you need to check the TAA listing). If you feel like you’re going to do horribly in Math 41 and may fare better in Math 11, then you can try to protect your GPA and drop 41 now to register for 11 in Fall.</p>
<p>Hope that all makes sense.</p>
<p>EDIT: So Math 41 is not a “waste” class that won’t count for anything. Passing that class will open the doors for you to take 12 (and subsequently higher math classes) that you will need for SCU.</p>
<p>@turtlerock haha hey there turtle. I’ve decided to change my major to communications and as it turns out they math 41 isn’t one of the core math subjects, meaning I still have to take another specific math (Stats, contemporary math, etc). But although it’s not one of SCU’s core math requirement, they said they would take it as a GE class.</p>
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Right, Math 41 is not listed on their TAA, but for a BA in Communications for SCU it lists choosing 1 of many higher Math classes, which includes Math 11 and 12. Since you’re currently in 41 (but it won’t count towards the transfer completion eligibility requirement) then you can pass it and take 12 next quarter, or you can drop 41 now and take 10 or 11 next quarter (just as my 1st reply stated, since 10 or 11 counts for the SCU Math transfer req but 41 does not - both 10 and 11 have the same prereq which you must’ve filled due to being placed in 41). Either way you need to take 10 or 11 next quarter (or you can choose 12 if you complete 41 with a passing grade).</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.deanza.edu/transfer/pdf/taa_scu_sho_f12rev.pdf[/url]”>http://www.deanza.edu/transfer/pdf/taa_scu_sho_f12rev.pdf</a> (This is the 2012 one - 2013 is currently pending).</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.scu.edu/ugrad/admission_process/apply/upload/DeAnza-A-S-Core-2009-Wtr-2011_.pdf[/url]”>http://www.scu.edu/ugrad/admission_process/apply/upload/DeAnza-A-S-Core-2009-Wtr-2011_.pdf</a> (Bottom of page 1 explains the same thing they told you).</p>
<p>Be advised that while your first pre-calculus class will count as GE for SCU, any subsequent pre-calc classes will not - so Math 42 and 43 will net you nothing for SCU. Whatever you choose, do not take the whole pre-calc series since you’re looking to transfer to CAS. There are no special instructions for your particular major in SCU’s CAS, but for other majors there are, like Political Science or Anthropology.</p>
<p>If it were me, I’d stick out Math 41 if I thought I could scrape out a B and then take 11 next quarter, so I’d get my required math + some extra GE.</p>
<p>@turtlerock Thanks so much for your help man, really. But I got another question: So I was accepted into USF (San Franciso) straight out of high school and again, my intention is to transfer after 1 year. Do you think it’s possible for me to transfer to USF if SCU doesn’t go well?</p>
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I think that’s certainly possible.</p>
<p>Use this to make sure you’re doing everything right for their transfer app: [University</a> of San Francisco (USF) - Admission Requirements](<a href=“http://usfca.edu/admission/undergraduate/transfer/criteria/]University”>http://usfca.edu/admission/undergraduate/transfer/criteria/)</p>
<p>Note some key points that page mentions:
This shouldn’t be a problem if you’re trying to transfer within a year, but if you end up staying a full 2 or more, then you may be limited to not transferring all your credits.</p>
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So get 36 quarter units from DA with a 3.0+ GPA and you should be “competitive” for admissions according to them. Fewer if you had a high GPA from HS. It’s nice of them to state that.</p>
<p>From USF’s website stating their TAA with DA College: <a href=“http://usfca.edu/uploadedFiles/Destinations/Undergraduate_Admission/Transfer/De%20Anza%20AA(2).pdf[/url]”>http://usfca.edu/uploadedFiles/Destinations/Undergraduate_Admission/Transfer/De%20Anza%20AA(2).pdf</a>
You should check to see which courses at DA are listed on both SCU’s and USF’s TAA and shoot for those classes to fill the requirements (or recommendations) so you cover both schools with one class.</p>
<p>There are no specific “recommended” courses (like SCU) for USF, but you can view this little sheet to use a a guide to coverwhat subject areas you should hit at DA. <a href=“http://usfca.edu/uploadedFiles/Destinations/Undergraduate_Admission/docs/Recommended%20Transfer%20Coursework.pdf[/url]”>http://usfca.edu/uploadedFiles/Destinations/Undergraduate_Admission/docs/Recommended%20Transfer%20Coursework.pdf</a> You would be College of Arts and Sciences as a Comm major, and generally speaking, as long as you do take the specific courses to fill SCU’s core based on their TAA, you should simultaneously be covering USF’s sheet here as well.</p>
<p>Also, I suggest getting in touch with your USF admission counselor early on. [University</a> of San Francisco (USF) - Contact Us](<a href=“http://usfca.edu/admission/undergraduate/transfer/contact_us/]University”>http://usfca.edu/admission/undergraduate/transfer/contact_us/)
Use that link to contact them and they should be able to give you a contact based on your major (as opposed to general admissions for Freshman applicants). My admission counselor was an amazing resource when I applied last Dec-Jan and I could tell he was an all around good guy who wanted to give as much information as he could (would even follow up on emails and phone calls too!).</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
<p>@turtlerock Sorry to bother you again, but what’s with the italicized word possible? Haha, are my chances still relatively low? Do you think that it’s going to be the same level of difficulty getting into USF as it is with SCU?</p>
<p>I stated possible because in theory it is possible, but in practice making it all happen will be up to you (or any other individual student). Nothing against your chances or any other measurable figure. Just meaning yes it’s possible, but only you will find out if it’s possible for you in time.</p>
<p>Generally speaking USF has had slighly higher acceptance rates in past years compared to SCU, however there are some possible different times coming ahead in terms of college applications - not just in the nation, but speciffically in CA. For example, the UCs and CSUs are increasingly becoming harder for middle class to afford and those institutions are accepting record numbers of OOS and Int’l students to help cover the costs of those students who cannot afford to attend there. This will push more middle class students to apply to more privates since they may be more financially attractive due to the availability of more grant and merit aid. This is just one facet of many things going on (your major is another thing to take into account i.e. how many Comm majors are applying to SCU vs USF) that may make any prediction here about your chances void.</p>
<p>But yeah, if you find yourself in a good slot as a competitive applicant for SCU, then you should consider yourself the same for USF.</p>
<p>Yeah I’m just hoping that since they accepted me out of high school that they’ll accept me again even though I’ll have approximately 20 units instead of 36 when applying (which means they look at high school transcripts). But just to make sure, I’ll probably do some extra curricular activities to boost my resume.</p>