Duggars in the news.

Ugh… I hope they all know how lucky they are that there are two live babies and two live mothers between those two births. I know people who had home births, but they were attended by physicians who did home births at the time. Big, big difference.

Don’t they live out in the boonies? I wonder how far they are from a hospital.

It’s funny, I did notice the birth actually took place at home because you could see a clothes closet in the background of one of the pictures, but I did wonder why Jessa wasn’t in any of the pictures. Jill’s first picture with her baby was taken with her holding the baby.

In an ideal Duggar world, the hospital that saved both sisters would not have had any of the female doctors, nurses or other medical practitioners who no doubt were involved in their respective medical interventions. But I guess it’s okay to have Godless hussies care for you when you need 'em. The hypocrisy of these people is nauseating.

^^^Interesting observation.

I’ve also found it interesting that the Duggars have no qualms about using advanced medicine when it suits them. I’m not being snarky about it, but some of the advances they’ve used – like the NICU for their youngest child – could be said to intervene with God’s plan. And they always want to pray in order to follow God’s plan. It feels contradictory to me.

What is their rationale for home births? I don’t recall reading here that they are like Christian Scientists or other sects that shun medical care. Do they get regular medical care for other illnesses? Do they vax?

TLC aired a 10 second commercial welcoming the baby boy into the “TLC Family.”
Guess TLC still hopes for ratings gold from the Duggars, once the forgiveness period has passed.
Awful.

Honestly, it doesn’t seem like much of an emergency to me. Having one gush of blood come with the placenta is normal. Bleeding had stopped, her uterus was hard, and she was alert and fine.

If they had had a more properly trained midwife, one who came with drugs she could use in an emergency situation, they wouldn’t have needed to call anyone.

I don’t think ill of them for calling under the circumstances. Seriously. Better safe than sorry.

I think ill of them for having a home birth in the first place.

(For low-risk pregnancies, home birth is as safe or safer than hospital birth. (That’s if you have a competent midwife, which I don’t think the Duggars have.) I have lots of friends who had their babies at home. I planned to have my son at home, but in the end the midwives decided he needed to be induced in a hospital.

fwiw, they don’t live way out in the boonies–There is a women’s hospital with NICU right down the road, and several other hospitals that do OB in the area. NW Arkansas (Fayetteville/Springdale/Rogers) is the 2nd largest metro area in Arkansas, with a population of over 500,000. I never watched their show, but I suppose it looks rural from what they show on TV. Yes, there are some parts of “town” that have farms/cows right next to subdivisions. I used to live in Springdale, and used to see the Duggars around. My two youngest kids were born (at two different hospitals) there. I also have had a home birth (with a CNM), and all went fine. I know a lot of women who had home births with no problems, but I wouldn’t try to “sell” anyone on them. Especially for a first baby. I don’t know what happened with Jessa, but it was her first baby and quite a big one. I think Michelle got nervous when she saw the blood. (I wonder if Jessa needed some stitches?) She did the right thing. If she didn’t call, and it turned out to be a true emergency, that would have been negligent.

http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,20965833,00.html

Jessa received a transfusion after her 48 hour labor. The labor was not what she expected.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2557246/signs-reveal-two-duggar-family-marriages-are-in-trouble/

Ignore the attention grabbing headline and skip the old news about Josh and Anna.

Who knew that Ben was such a romantic guy with girly handwriting?

Never heard of abstinence for the last 80 days of pregnancy as being a ‘thing’ - maybe it’s a Duggar thing that helps bring on the next pregnancy.

I think it said abstinence for 80 days after the birth. That’s nearly three months! Maybe it’s their only way to be sure that they don’t have a new baby every year.

Oops- you are right!

I think that post-birth abstinence has something to do with Levitical teachings. But I thought the abstinence period was shorter after birthing a male baby. ??

Well, I thought it was just six weeks until the vagina heals, but obviously that’s not what they’re talking about.

Is nothing private with these people? I really don’t want to know about their sex lives. These people are obsessed with it.

It has to do with “cleanliness” and “purification” if it’s based on Levitical teachings (ETA: as far as I know, and I’m certainly no expert).

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+12

Unclean for 40 days if it’s a boy, 80 days if it’s a girl.

Does Jessa need to round up a young lamb and a pigeon or dove, too?

Seems very legalistic doesn’t it? That’s a tricky minefield where Gothard has (inappropriately imho) lead his followers.

For all the condescension towards Catholics, there sure is alot of ritual-following.

Pretty clear why college education isn’t really an option.