Duke Civil Engineering VS CMU Civil Engineering?

<p>Duke Admissions just called me this morning to inform me that I've been admitted into their School of Engineering.</p>

<p>From what I remember reading, CMU ranks top 10 in the nation for engineering overall, and 11th in Civil Engineering. Duke, on the other hand, ranks around 30 or so.</p>

<p>I know that ranking shouldn't be the deciding factor. Even though North Carolina is much farther than Pittsburgh from NYC, but from what others tell me, the weather in NC is absolutely beautiful...which is the complete opposite of Pittsburgh.</p>

<p>I'm leaning towards Carnegie Mellon since I have made a deposit, even though I'm not guaranteed a dorm</p>

<p>Can anyone give me any additional information about either one of these engineering schools that can help me solidify my decision?</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>I made this topic on the CMU forum too, so I can have perspectives from both boards. Also, I have not yet received my financial aid package from Duke yet.</p>

<p>I'm not familiar with Carnegie Mellon - I only know the stereotype that students there are overworked. But the engineering program ought to be top-notch. </p>

<p>I think it depends on how certain you are that engineering is the thing for you. If there's any doubt, Duke would be a better place for exploring other fields.</p>

<p>Wait for that finaid package - it may make the decision for you. =)</p>

<p>I graduated with my civil degree from Duke. Go to Duke. I guarantee you that you will love the CEE program.</p>

<p>I'm pretty sure engineering is something that I want to do. But I can't be absolutely 100% sure...</p>

<p>I'm wondering what this Financial Aid package would look like for me. CMU's package was weak. I still had to pay 35k a year when my EFC was only 12k =/</p>

<p>@UltimateFrisbee, are there any stats on job / grad school placement for CivE students that graduate? I know that CMU graduates about 30 or so a year and most of them end up with either a job or continuing their masters (most at CMU's grad school).</p>

<p>How large is the CivE program at Duke? What are you doing now in terms of jobs and such?</p>

<p>Thank you for your input!:)</p>

<p>That's a terrible finaid package.
Duke's class size is about 27 per year. Mine was.
Just about everyone went to either grad school or a job. </p>

<p>As for me, I am working exactly where I want to: for an AEC firm. Also I got to work a day at home each week after asking, which is pretty much unprecedented for a new hire. Thanks Duke.</p>

<p>Oh wow that sounds pretty cool. Do you know what the average /median starting salary was for Duke students when they graduated?</p>

<p>It seems that you had a beyond amazing time at Duke. What do you have to say about Duke's low rankings compared to CMU's? Can you assure me that rankings aren't that important?</p>

<p>Also, how would you describe the people in Pratt Engineering and Duke in general? </p>

<p>I'm sorry I have so many questions, but I just have so much uncertainty floating around in my head!</p>

<p>Where Duke civil engineers go after graduation</p>

<p>50% Engineering consulting services
8% Engineering grad school
8% Management grad school
8% Law School
8% Medical School
10% Other</p>

<p>Graduate Schools:
Stanford University
Georgetown University
Washington University
Duke University</p>

<p>Employers:</p>

<p>Skanska USA Building, Inc.
L.A. Feuss Partners
Keith & Schnars, PA
Black & Veatch
Delta Engineers
Thornton Thomasetti
Clark Construction Group
The Westly Group </p>

<p>Where</a> do CEE students go? | Duke Civil and Environmental Engineering Department</p>

<p>Duke engineering is a more of a niche program as opposed to CMU with its large number of departments. The ranking is largely a result of research output and historic reputation of being a tech/engineering school. Since CMU's school is so much bigger, it has more professors, more world-class research, more breakthroughs, etc. It's name is out there more in the engineering world, showing up in prestigious engineering journals and the like. Duke, with only four departments, still attracts top notch faculty but in smaller numbers. Its research is also world-class but not as apparent since its on a smaller scale. But on a per capita basis for the student, it doesn't meet anything as long as you're interested in one of those four disciplines. It's incredibly easy to get research positions as an undergrad at Duke in many different types of research fields. </p>

<p>CMU is a great school, don't get me wrong. There would be nothing wrong with choosing it. However, I will guarantee you that the students at Pratt are higher quality from a stats standpoint than the CMU counterparts (who are also very accomplished). This is a reason for this; top students don't choose a school ranked in the 30s over "higher ranked" schools for no reason (I chose it over Umich and IL, two supposedly higher ranked schools). Some of the reasons being more personalized attention, opportunity for research as an undergrad for everybody and not just the top of the class, top students in general, being a part of a larger liberal arts focused institution instead of a tech-heavy one, great business footprint and top firms recruiting, flexibility in curriculum, study abroad opportunities, etc. If you think there is a chance you might change from engineering as an undergrad (30% do...) or go into business/finance/consulting after graduation, I'd highly recommend Duke. If you are 100% committed to a particular field of engineering and enjoy being a part of a university known primarily for its tech fields, then CMU might be the better choice. (This is of course assuming they cost the same. I'd wait to see Duke's financial aid as it very likely could be better than CMU's. That could certainly tip the scale.) </p>

<p>You won't be giving up huge engineering opportunities choosing Duke even though it's ranked lower. I can assure you that. But it's probably fair to say that CMU has more *engineering *firms recruiting on campus than Duke just because of the sheer number of students and number of departments. Duke engineers do very well with the management consulting firms though.</p>

<p>Hey Bluedog, thanks for that website and really great insight on the engineering program!I think Duke would be a good fit for me since I was planning on minoring in some sort of Business, as well.</p>

<p>Duke just offered me $38,880 in scholarship money. I think it's a no-brainer at this point, since CMU only offered me $18,000, when my EFC is only around 10k a year.</p>

<p>Duke has a really great financial aid package. Do you think they will offer me this much every year as long as my parents financial standings are the same?</p>

<p>Also, this may be a silly question, but I just want to be 100% clear since it seems to be weirdly phrased...</p>

<p>"Once you notify Duke University of your intent to matriculate, the Financial Aid Office will send information regarding accepting/declining/ or reducing the aid offered to you and reporting of outside scholarships."</p>

<p>I am the one accepting/declining/ or reducing the aid, correct? From the way that sentence is phrased, it sounds like THEY are the ones changing the aid haha.</p>

<p>Thanks again for your help!</p>

<p>Congrats on the sweet package. :D</p>

<p>And don't worry - as long as your family's financial circumstances remain the same, your package shouldn't fluctuate very much from year to year.</p>