<p>BEPREPN - that is very true - but you still have to show up at the court house to do so :)</p>
<p>Beprepn, that was what has been so frustrating for my husband–he would tell the truth. That just resulted in never being seated on a trial and spending the week sitting in a hallway waiting for the next jury selection (and then be excused again). He said actually “serving” would have been much more interesting than doing “hall duty”.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070208/NEWSREC0101/70208001/-1/NEWSREC0201[/url]”>http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070208/NEWSREC0101/70208001/-1/NEWSREC0201</a></p>
<p>"Wilson’s 16-year career as a private investigator included at least seven formal inquiries into his behavior, the newspaper reported based on his licensing file, which is public record under state law.</p>
<p>Wilson has never been charged with a crime, but his file shows he was investigated 20 years ago for making false statements on the stand and setting up an illegal wiretap, the newspaper reported."</p>
<p>Yep, 1sokkermom–Nifong picked a really great person to help in the DA’s office!! Do you think he checked into his background at all? Takes a dishonest person to find a dishonest person to work with, I guess!!! Just when you think you’ve heard just about everything in this case…:)</p>
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<p>Yes </p>
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<p>Are you insinuating that he was looking for someone who was already “ethically challenged” ? Well, he certainly found his man. :D</p>
<p>What should Brodhead have done?</p>
<p>1.) Be aware of the environment. If there is a policeman that is abusing his selective enforcement responsibility by arresting students on minor charges, it should be handled. Court action?</p>
<p>2.) Understand the unlikliness of 10’s of Duke students cooperating in gang rape and successfully stone walling the investigation.</p>
<p>3.) Given 2, investigate and establish the innocence of the team.</p>
<p>4.) Given 1 thru 3 use university resources to defend the students.</p>
<p>^^Yes, and I’d like to add to that:</p>
<p>Yale president Kingman Brewster’s grave includes one of his own lines: “The presumption of innocence is not just a legal concept. In commonplace terms, it rests on that generosity of spirit which assumes the best, not the worst, in the stranger.”</p>
<p>Ironic that a former YALE president said that, isn’t it?</p>
<p>No, it is not.</p>
<p>The usage of “stranger” in your quote references one whom we know nothing about not someone different than ourselves.</p>
<p>That definition doesn’t fly where you seemingly want to take it as all involved are at least “acquainted”</p>
<p>OT - I disagree; it would seem clear that some people made a decision to speak of those about whom they knew nothing, and to reject attempts to acquaint themselves with those people. Some refuse to read - or believe - the Coleman report, even as it would present a way to get to know more about the lacrosse team. Some were “aghast” at the idea of a voluntary faculty program to learn more about student athletes, even though that would be a way to become acquinted with those students. </p>
<p>To many, the lacrosse team are intentionally strangers - even in your sense of the word.</p>
<p>It looks like some people are still trying to force some accountability on the part of some of the Professors who probably preferred to keep the lacrosse players strangers!</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-817848.cfm[/url]”>http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-817848.cfm</a></p>
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<p>I do not disagree with you at all. But your take is not where I thought the previous post was trying to go.</p>
<p>I was not aware of Brodhead’s Yale connection and thus totally missed the irony being pointed out. Instead, I thought the poster was taking his irony in a totally different direction having nothing to do with Duke or the lax case, but with certain other Yale graduates. My bad.</p>
<p>The “all involved” I was referencing thus have nothing to do with Duke or this case and are parties with long histories of more than “acquaintance”.
…and since I misunderstood, they have nothing to do with the post I was responding to either…ugh.</p>
<p>This is not related to the lacrosse case at all. However, it is getting a lot of press. It will be interesting to see how this alleged case is handled.</p>
<p>The alleged victim is a Duke student. The suspect appears to be a black man. "An 18-year-old woman told officers that she was raped in a bathroom around 3 a.m. and that there were about 50 people at the party. Police said the suspect is described as a black male in his late teens or early 20s, about 6-foot-1 and was wearing a black doo-rag, gray sweatshirt and blue jeans. "</p>
<p><a href=“http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2007/02/09/News/Student.Alleges.Sexual.Assault.At.OffEast.House-2711237.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com[/url]”>http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2007/02/09/News/Student.Alleges.Sexual.Assault.At.OffEast.House-2711237.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com</a></p>
<p>What is it about rapes in bathrooms with lots of people mingling around at a party? Could this be a copy-cat alleged rape? Wonder why there are no details being reported. I feel bad if the girl was raped but this must be awfully bad press for the University.</p>
<p>I too feel bad for the girl and doubly because it has gotten national attention already. Same for Duke – at another school, the media would not have jumped on this to this extent.</p>
<p>This is terrible! The poor girl; she is undoubtedly a freshman. Did the fellow just wander in to the home and accost the girl? Or is it someone they know and will hopefully apprehend? A student was assaulted near UNC a few months ago. Not raped, but a man walked up to the student, grabbed her and tried to choke her. Thank goodness she was able to get away from him. I’ve never heard if this one was ever apprehended. </p>
<p>What shame for this poor child and her family. Hopefully the vultures, I mean the media, will just lay off.</p>
<p>In post 209 I mentioned that Amanda Marcotte had been hired by the Edwards campaign as a blogger. The hire had created some controversy because of outlandish things she and her fellow blogger were still saying just recently about the lacrosse players.</p>
<p>Well, the Edwards campaign has unhired her or she resigned, not over anti-white male statements but for anti-Catholic statements. I haven’t followed her postings but she must be a piece of work. Anyone she hasn’t offended? Isn’t running for President supposed to be about building a coalition large enough to get the votes to win?</p>
<p>Well, of course the right thing to do is wait and see… but I prefer to speculate. Sounds like a hoax to me, sort of a pc trap to see how the media, the police and the university react to a black rapes white in bathroom story vs how everyone reacted to the white rapes black story. It would make a nice sociology experiment.</p>
<p>It seems like the media is being a bit more cautious about rushing to judgement this time. However, most stories do mention the lacrosse case as a sensational “twist”, even though that was eleven months ago and has no bearing on this alleged incident at all. It is also interesting to note that apparently the police report clearly identifies the race of the suspect, yet many stories do not. I haven’t seen a single story identifying the race of the alleged victim. </p>
<p>I also have not seen anyone rushing to the support of the victim or suspect.
(NAACP, Professors, etc…)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-818991.cfm[/url]”>http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-818991.cfm</a></p>
<p>Update: University official has stated that the alleged victim is white.</p>
<p><a href=“http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2007/02/13/News/OffEast.Rape.Investigation.Continues-2716034.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com[/url]”>http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2007/02/13/News/OffEast.Rape.Investigation.Continues-2716034.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com</a></p>