Duke LAX case discussion continued.....;)

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<p>This is going to be very interesting. I understand Phi Beta Sigma is a well-respected black fraternity (though the coke and oxycontin thing will definitely be a stain on that reputation). </p>

<p>I don’t think this is a hoax, but it will be interesting to see how this is handled. I don’t see the media going away on this one.</p>

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<p>Some in the media can’t control themselves. :eek:</p>

<p><a href=“NEW RAPE CLAIM JOLTS DUKE UNIV.”>NEW RAPE CLAIM JOLTS DUKE UNIV.;

<p>Headline: NEW RAPE CLAIM JOLTS DUKE UNIV.</p>

<p>(very PC article!)</p>

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<p>Interesting that the article in the New York Post doesn’t mention any of the pertinent information that the Chronicle article states - such as race of victim and accused, description of accused, drugs, presence of a gun, etc.</p>

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<p>Where are the Pot Bangers? Where are the feminist groups? Where is Jesse Jackson? Where are the “88”?</p>

<p>Why is the media taking a Wall of Silence with the facts on this alleged incident? Why are some issues not so important as they were eleven months ago?</p>

<p>You do have to wonder. :confused:</p>

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<p>Given some the the parallels between the current incident and the situation with the lacrosse team, it will be interesting to observe how the administation and others within the Duke community react as the facts become more clear. Hopefully, some lessons were learned as a result of the handling of the lacrosse incident. However, I see it as a no win situation as far as the administration goes, as it will be criticized by one group or the other whatever it elects to do.</p>

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<p>I doubt very much this is a hoax -was bound to happen at some point. What I do find interesting tho is with so many colleges in the R/D area - other rapes have not been publisized - and that because this involves a Duke student - it hits the airways immediately.</p>

<p>It seems that the local media is handling this new situation as they did prior to March 2006 - it is news worthy but not sensational - the Lacrosse rape case was sensationalized because of the who’s/what’s of the parties :(</p>

<p>If this was a frat ‘house’ party - I am sure we will be hearing alot more about the frat/school responsibility - but if it was not (tho it does seem frat related) - it may be the page 5 story - tho it will be interesting to see how it is handled by all the authorities involved.</p>

<p>I will bet that this is not the first rape involving a Duke student since this all got sooo sensationalized last year - and I also bet that several have gone unreported due to how the Lacrosse situation has been handled. This one hit the news cuz the police were called - so it is a matter of public record - where as if it only involved school police - it could well have been kept fairly quiet.</p>

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Protesting how horribly they’ve been treated. Apparently some of them view themselves as the new Dixie Chicks. :rolleyes: </p>

<p><a href=“http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2007/02/13/News/Faculty.Speak.Out.On.Threats.Intimidation-2716039.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com[/url]”>http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/media/storage/paper884/news/2007/02/13/News/Faculty.Speak.Out.On.Threats.Intimidation-2716039.shtml?sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Duke’s response to the rape allegation:

<a href=“http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/search.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-02-12-0001.html[/url]”>CBS 17 | Raleigh, Durham News & Weather | WNCN CBS17.com;

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<p>Our constituencies? And who are they?</p>

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<p>Oh, the irony. No comment about their contribution to the threats directed at the players and their families?</p>

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<p>Here is an example of one of the privileged, selfish, elite, WM athletes that the 88 rail about. His contribution and sacrifice should make them ashamed. But it won’t.
<a href=“http://■■■■■■■.com/2h795w[/url]”>http://■■■■■■■.com/2h795w&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Condolences to the family.</p>

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<p>Do you think the New Black Panther group is planning a campus rally and protest in support of the alleged victim of this recent incident?</p>

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<p>This evening my wife received a call from a group that wanted to get her impressions about colleges in the news. But it turned into a question and answer session about the LAX case. My wife and I are both Duke alums. While it was initially stated that the survey would only take a few minutes, it ended up taking about 20. Actually the Duke case wasn’t mentioned at the outset. First she was asked what schools she had heard were in the news lately. Then the questioner asked what her impressions were of a variety schools, all of which we had no connection with except for Duke. From there the questions focused on Duke. There were repeated questions asked in different ways about how the case made her feel toward Duke, toward Brodhead, the likelihood that the case might change how much we might donate to Duke, etc. </p>

<p>We were wondering who was behind this? The Duke Administration? The Board of Trustees? The Friends of Duke or whatever the group is that has formed in opposition to the 88? Many of the questions seemed to be trying to assess my wife’s support for Brodhead. Is he on the way out?</p>

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<p>It might’ve been alumni affairs. Alumni giving has been way down this year, from what I’ve heard.</p>

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<p>Brodhead is a jelly fish but a typical college president in that regard. Duke is hurting in the recruiting department as well as alumni giving. Even the basketball team is having an off year. The sad thing to me is the Duke administration handled this pretty much the same any of our other leading universities would have.</p>

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<p>2dsdad, You take a random phone call and answer questions without knowing exactly who you are speaking to?? Not in my house.</p>

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<p>“You take a random phone call and answer questions without knowing exactly who you are speaking to?? Not in my house.”</p>

<p>Obviously, it was not a random phone call.</p>

<p>Given that we are Duke grads, we have one child in college, another applying, and the attention focused on the Duke case, when someone calls and begins to inquire about colleges in the news, she was interested enough to answer. The caller did not identify who was funding the call, only that an opinion organization was gathering data. I am sure direct questioning would not have revealed the funding source. </p>

<p>You can do what you want in your household if they call you. We usually hang up on these type of calls, too, but this one had a hook that grabbed her attention.</p>

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<p>From January 26 Chronicle:</p>

<p>"Even though some alumni have refrained from donating to the University, the case’s long-term impact is impossible to measure at this time, said Peter Vaughn, Duke’s executive director of alumni and development communications.</p>

<p>His office has received thousands of letters in response to the scandal, but the majority are supportive of the University, he said.</p>

<p>Vaughn noted that even some of the most fervent critics continue to donate to their alma mater. </p>

<p>“A great many people-even when they disagree with the University-continue to support it financially,” Vaughn said, adding that this principle has held true during previous controversies.</p>

<p>“The truth is that the vast majority of what goes on at Duke has nothing to with lacrosse, but you certainly wouldn’t know that reading the media,” he added.</p>

<p>Donations are on track for this fiscal year, although the total number of donors has fallen, Vaughn said."</p>

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<p>A flyer for the Shut up and Teach presentation
<a href=“http://www.jhfc.duke.edu/icuss/pdfs/shutup4.pdf[/url]”>http://www.jhfc.duke.edu/icuss/pdfs/shutup4.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And a response to the use of the term McCarthyism in the flyer
<a href=“http://■■■■■■■.com/29la3r[/url]”>http://■■■■■■■.com/29la3r&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>KC Johnson has an extended write up today on what the Dixie Chicks of Academia had to say at the meeting, titled Condemned to Repetition.</p>

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<p>I went to the presentation. There were a few different types of commentary. Some - such as Dr. Lubiano’s - focused more on the validity of AAAS as an academic discipline than anything else. I enjoyed hers and was at the same time sad that an academic discipline has to keep defending itself. Engineering has had to do the same thing - defending itself as an academic discipline rather than a cascade of skills courses.</p>

<p>One focused on KC Johnson. I’m hoping to talk more with the professor who made that one, because I found myself disagreeing strongly with his present - that someone not at or of Duke could write important works on the case. I also disagreed with his presentation style - lifting bits and pieces out of postings and stitching them together. It’s oddly similar to what has been done to some of the folks who signed the listening statement…</p>

<p>The one I thought was furthest afield from things, though, was a presentation about the intimidation techniques of the CIA and the intimidation of people in Guatemala. As Dr. Weintraub mentions in his letter, those things are very, very far away from the things happening in this case. I mean, having Bill O’Reilly’s goons show up on your front porch and refuse to leave even after you have asked them too several times is decidedly irritating and improper, but it is not a death squad either…</p>

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<p>Thanks for that info, DukeEng93!!</p>

<p>Here’s a funny article from today’s Herald Sun!! Can you even imagine that in all of this there could be a “District Attorney Appreciation Week”?? Only Victoria Peterson could come up with this! </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-821293.cfm[/url]”>www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-821293.cfm</a></p>