<p>FYI - the full press conference by the state DA is 16 minutes long … here is a full version … <a href=“Rape Charges Dropped in Duke Lacrosse Case”>Rape Charges Dropped in Duke Lacrosse Case; … and the longer the version I see the stronger the comments seem to support the innocense of the players.</p>
<p>This case is a perfect example on how effed up racial relations are in this country. Three black students at the University of Minnesota are being charged with sex crimes against a student, how much do you want to bet she is white, but the media will not report this. Why not apply the same standards to the Golden Gophers that the Duke Lax team faced? Cancel the entire football season, fire the coach, and have 88 COMPLETE MORONS write threatening newspaper articles. Oh that’s right, it won’t happen because black students are innocent until proven guilty, whereas white students are instantly guilty. Many posters on this board should be lucky that the previous 10,000 posts on this subject were deleted, because I know of many white posters who somehow want to see white people fail no matter what the costs, and think that black men can do no wrong whatsoever. The double standard needs to change in this country immediately, it should really change on this message board as well. Yeah I said it.</p>
<p>Finally!! Way past time.</p>
<p>Now will there be an apology forthcoming from the Group of 88? Nifong? HAH.
I highly doubt it…although an apology would be a start.</p>
<p>joev - WE don’t need to do anything. It’s up to the 3 young men (and their families) to handle the matter themselves. And if you’re going to “smear” her name, at least get it right (Mangum).</p>
<p>I deleted the post because I realized that CC would probably delete it for me, but Crystal Gail Mangum needs to be held accountable for her racist lying actions. If she even gets a tenth of the flack that Reade and company got, then I will be appeased.</p>
<p>The term “■■■■■■■” is an adjective that means out of wedlock. It has nothing to do with the turn of the century. It is not necessarily a negative term, but a descriptive one.</p>
<p>As far as humanity, my suggestion for the accuser to get professional help in a mental institution is very humane. I believe that such a move would be in the best interest of her and her children. In my humble opinion, it is also in the best interest of any men that she could potentially accuse in the future. They deserve to be shown humanity as well.</p>
<p>Why wasn’t the accuser charged with making false report? </p>
<p>She almost sent 3 innocent young men to jail for long time. She took a year from the lives of these young men who would otherwise be entering completing their senior years in college.</p>
<p>Fact: </p>
<p>She knew she was raped or not. She wasn’t drugged or compromised in anyway. And she had a whole year to back out of this false allegation and did nothing. </p>
<p>Why the double standard ?</p>
<p>Your thoughts?</p>
<p>note from CollegeMom: edvest started a new thread that I have now merged with the original Duke thread. Here is the post from his thread. Sokkermom1’s reply to it is post #433 below. Then the two threads were merged. Note that I haven’t messed up this time in merging Duke threads, LOL, like the time I lost 10,000 posts, 
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<p>Please do not insult our intelligence by suggesting that you did not mean “■■■■■■■” - or “b@st@rd,” as you typed it - in “a negative” way.</p>
<p>I thought Reade Seligman said it all - that if the police and a District Attorney can do this type of injustice to him and the other 2 wrongly accused, it is hard to imagine what they would do to others, who lack the resources to defend themselves.</p>
<p>Of course, we know what they do. And the result is innocent men sitting on death row only to be exonerated by DNA evidence years later.</p>
<p>Frightening.</p>
<p>Epistrophy-
Chill. 
you are reading way too much in to this.
Please do not insult my intelligence by spouting off some bull$%#* about the turn of the century, blah blah blah. :)</p>
<p>Note: bull$%#* is a negative term!</p>
<p>I agree with you jmmom. However, the injustice started withg the ACCUSER. WE can not forget that.</p>
<p>I was sort of disappointed - I had really hoped to hear today that Seligmann at last was headed back to college this fall - wasn’t Brown recruiting him? Now, I’m settling for hoping that he perhaps has an acceptance letter, and that perhaps the information was withheld today, out of sensitivity for the other two and their families, if it could not also be announced that Evans has a job offer and Finnerty also has an offer to attend a college this coming fall.</p>
<p>I guess I think they deserve some privacy - the world does not have to know where they are going to school or if going to work. I have no doubt the public will hear at some point - but for now - their privacy is even more so.</p>
<p>Maybe she is so pathetic that people feel sorry for her ?</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265374,00.html[/url]”>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265374,00.html</a></p>
<p>I was very impressed with the way the boys each presented themselves at their news conference. They spoke intelligently and with feeling and character. </p>
<p>I agree with JMMom that I particularly thought it was great when Seligman pointed out or was it Evans? or both? anyway…that they had the good fortune that their parents were able to afford good representation and that others who are wrongly accused or moreover mishandled in this gross way by the justice system likely wouldn’t have had justice served. They are in jail and he mentioned that the three of them likely could have spent 30 years in jail for crimes they never commited. Their whole conference was chilling, emotional, and a big mix of feelings. I thought the boys spoke maturely and was impressed with their character and ability to face the media given all they have gone through and the ways they have been portrayed by the media. I thought they had some powerful things to say about how staying the course with being truthful prevailed. Their thanking of their parents was very touching to me, as well.</p>
<p>One more thought …more a “I wonder”…</p>
<p>But I recall when all this came down, Duke’s official position was supposedly to stay “neutral” and to let the justice system do its job and they were not going to take one side or the other (I’m not giving my opinion about that stance or what they coulda shoulda done but simply their public remarks by Broadhead)…well, now the justice system has done its job (a roller coaster ride if there ever was one) and so I would be very curious of a public statement from Duke now that the thing they were waiting for has happened…I’d love to hear their statement or position.</p>
<p>I just saw an article calling the lax players “Shaggy-Headed Joes.”</p>
<p>SS…really? Where?</p>
<p>Compare and contrast the level of injustice done to the Duke lacrosse team vs. that done to the Rutgers basketball team.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks the boys are going to return to life as normal should read this quote from a Duke bio professor, still not willing to admit no assault took place:
Sadly, this charge will forever taint their reputations.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.amny.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-licase0411,0,3731260.story?coll=am-politics-headlines[/url]”>http://www.amny.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-licase0411,0,3731260.story?coll=am-politics-headlines</a></p>
<p>soozievt, the “Shaggy-Headed Joes” headline is from a Jim Treacher blog article on The Daily Gut.</p>
<p>YIKES…my son had that prof! :eek:</p>