Duke or the Ivy's

<p>Does anyone think the Ivy's are better than Duke? If so why so?</p>

<p>its watever your cup of tea is. duke is considered a quasi-ivy and ranks above several of the ivies. people are often fixated on the word "ivy" because of its prestige, but i think duke offers prestige as well. i think after hyps (stanford isn't an ivy) duke comes next. its truly the most well-rounded school, thats why i chose it. basketball, social scene, and a wide-array of majors that duke is good at ultimately to me tops an ivy. but its all up to u</p>

<p>ummmmm....you're going to get a biased response here....</p>

<p>Making qualitative judgments about schools like this, imho, is sort of useless. All these schools are fantastic places to go. It's a matter of personal preference. Judging from many of the threads on this board, students who go to Duke love Duke, and obviously prefer it over the Ivies.</p>

<p>yea i agree with the last to posts, if u look at my post, the key is "to me" duke is better. if u want i can tell u why... but this is a common and general question</p>

<p>which ivy? you can't just lump them all together. Brown does not = Princeton</p>

<p>Duke > some Ivy's
The others > Duke</p>

<p>Therefore, Duke is Ivy level, just a different scene.</p>

<p>then Brown vs Duke ? like economics major.
If I am accepted by both of them( I mean only), it'll be extremely difficult to make a choice.
Any idea?</p>

<p>actually i was wondering how Duke compared to Dartmouth...in international relations/antropology/government...thanks!</p>

<p>aussenseiter: if it means anything i have a friend that was in a bind between duke and brown. he ultimately chose duke b/c of a better social scence. according to him duke and brown are very very similar to one another, he just liked the duke scene better so it was the tip factor. Bonniez90: i kno duke has an awesomed international relations dept., most of my friends that go there do that, it is extremely popular because duke shines in that area.</p>

<p>Bonniez90 - This is an area to be wary of rankings - there's a [url=<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/3685626-post1.html%5Dpost%5B/url"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/3685626-post1.html]post[/url&lt;/a&gt;] from last year ranking IR programs. And some of the undergraduate programs listed...don't have undergraduate IR programs. </p>

<p>To all, I would strongly recommend "hunting" as much as possible on the web and wherever else to see the kinds of classes students take and the kinds of independent study opportunities presented. If you are choosing among places like Brown, Dartmouth, Duke, any of the Ivys, many excellent state schools, etc then you are basically in a wonderful situation where you can't make a bad choice. All you can do is make an informed choice and then commit yourself to making your college experience the best you can for you. And it is highly unlikely that rankings, or "prestige," or any other highly subjective measure will help you decide what is best for you. Instead, getting an idea about the curriculum and about the lives of other undergraduates will provide the kind of information you'll need.</p>

<p>O'course...full disclosure...I only applied one place, so that made my decision much, much easier :)</p>

<p>It is all sooooo subjective, my friend!</p>

<p>People shouldn't group all the Ivies into one.
Cornell and Brown aren't as selective as Harvard.. even though all three waitlisted me ;)</p>

<p>Here is match. Duke is on par with Cornell:
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/09/17/weekinreview/20060917_LEONHARDT_CHART.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/09/17/weekinreview/20060917_LEONHARDT_CHART.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>That puts Duke behind every single Ivy, so it really doesn't help Duke's cause much. In terms of academics, Duke is on par with the non-HYP Ivies, but is significantly behind HYPSM.</p>

<p>Hmm... 3500 students to create a model to fill out a bracket with 225 entries based on percentages... I wonder what the confidence level is in some of the numbers - say the prediction that 99 times out of 100 someone will go to Harvard instead of UCLA. Or 96 times out of a hundred someone will go to Yale instead of Northwestern...</p>

<p>On the other hand, I do pretty much agree with the Duke column - though not as a measure of fit for a student. It's just a false assertion to look at this and say that, for each person, you should go with the numbers.</p>

<p>Of all the Ivies, Duke is most similiar to Dartmouth College with respect to campus culture in my opinion.</p>

<p>duke isnt SIGNIFICANTLY behind the ivies. duke is doing considerably awesome considering that schools like harvard and yale have been around forever and duke has only been around since the 1800's. keep that in mind. duke is on par to dartmouth, brown, cornell, and columbia in my opinion.</p>

<p>what about penn lol</p>

<p>That's the ivy I've most often heard Duke compared to.</p>

<p>This is all about fit. For someone who has been in the real world for a few years, a lot of people think Duke is in the Ivy League, and there is no marginal difference between going to any of the Ivy League schools save HYP perhaps and Duke in terms of perceived prestige in the general population. Only on CC do people parse these reputational factors out so closely. So the answer is: go where you like the most. Me? I'd choose Brown every day of the week instead of Duke, but not for any academic or reputational reasons. On the other hand, I'd choose Duke over Cornell and Penn and quite possibly over HYP. Brown is my favorire Ivy, in other words.</p>

<p>yes i forgot penn. yea many consider brown the bastard (excuse my language) ivy because its so different from the others, but thats a good thing. </p>

<p>ill prolly get an infraction for saying bastard. dont take it out of context moderator</p>