<p>I think rolling admissions are great. I have advised several students to apply just to take some of the burden off ( at schools that are decent fits of course)
But I am wondering if students apply rolling admissions in Dec, will students who wait to apply till february or whenever reg admission is at other schools be at a disadvantage?</p>
<p>good question… I’ve wondered that as well. Also, I wonder if being accepted at a rolling admission school lessens the pressure a bit to do well on the subsequent apps - especially if the admission is to a school which is a good fit?</p>
<p>"I realize that these are not always the very elites and that it’s not an option for someone doing ED, " Actually, many ED schools do allow rolling admissions applications to be filed. This was a huge boon to my S, whose second choice school was Michigan, to which he was accepted in October. It made the ED decision much less fretful for him; it was gonna be one or the other, and he loved them both. (BTW, he didn’t tell me until recently that he’d decided by then that he was not applying anywhere else!)</p>
<p>It’s so funny, the other day I was walking around in Boston and saw a girl in a trendy-looking (rhinestone-emblazoned, no less!) Dartmouth sweatshirt. I got excited and my dad urged me to go talk to her. When I refused he said, “Why? Usually when people wear a college sweatshirt they have some affiliation with the school.” I didn’t have the heart to explain that it’s now a fashion statement- all of my friends have various college sweatshirts.</p>
<p>I think on a subconscious level (this is me being totally dorky) I think that wearing an Ivy League college sweatshirt that’s cute sends out the message “I’m smart enough to apply/get accepted here, but I’m trendy too.” That balance is crucial, especially to many of the intelligent girls I know.That said, I do think it’s okay to wear your college sweatshirt outside of school or after you graduate… it’s no fun bragging to people who’ve accomplished the same thing you have!</p>
<p>I read the “Yale Massacre” thread because I’ve heard so much about it on CC. The kids were mainly posting their SAT scores, which is only a small piece of their application. Granted ther were a couple of kids who seemed to have stellar everyting (i.e. Soozie’s daugther), but at elite school’s you need to have more thatn stellar stats. Decisions at this level are basically made on what you can contribute to the school.</p>
<p>I am so so so anxious about my D’s ED!! </p>
<p>She is not. I did a great job (IMHO) of emphasizing the safetys & matches and deeming the reaches “longshots.” Thus, she thinks she ‘probably won’t get in’ to her ED and is already nearly done preparing the other apps-- so she can have a fun winter vacation either way, with nothing hanging over her head. Deferral would be excruciating. If she is not admitted we’ll just toss the other apps in the mail & send the SATs. If she is admitted you will hear us screaming three states away!!</p>
<p>I know her #1 is a reach, and the odds are at best 50/50 for her to get in. I also know that it could be a life-changingly wonderful place for her to attend college. She is an unusual kid whose strengths & needs are really specific… I have to remind myself, though, that she <em>is</em> adaptable and probably would be happy at a number of schools. I have to remind myself that I was waitlisted at my #1 and was blissfully happy at my #2. (She also did 2 EA’s but I don’t think we’ll hear till Jan on those.)</p>
<p>My addiction to CC is because I cannot bear to talk about this with my D-- I don’t want to screw up her calm attitude! My H is anxious too, but to talk to him would only raise his anxiety. So this is the right forum for an obsessive mother with noone to talk to!</p>
<p>I like the notion of putting forth a positive attitude, and I think I will order a sweatshirt, just in case. :)</p>
<p>She is supposed to hear Dec 15th. Either way, we go to Mexico Dec 19th to collapse!!</p>
<p>Good luck to all of your kids!</p>
<p>"My addiction to CC is because I cannot bear to talk about this with my D-- I don’t want to screw up her calm attitude! "</p>
<p>SBmom - replace the D/her with an S/him and that would apply to me as well. Well said.</p>
<p>Berurah I’m with you!!! This is definitely excruciating! And if things go wrong on Dec. 16, there’s only going to be 3+ more months of waiting.</p>
<p>I don’t think my parents know when I find out my ED decision (December 10th), and given the anxieties here, I’m glad. Still, I think they’re more worried than I am, but the whole situation is out of our hands now and fretting over it isn’t going to do any good.</p>
<p>snapple - boy is that true. Back in the stone ages, when I applied to Ga Tech (my only app), I don’t know if my parents were even aware of when I applied, much less when the acceptances were mailed out. Seriously, I do think that (today) parents like me take on too much of the stress, when in fact our kids handle these things more in stride…</p>
<p>Yes, that’s because we’ve been to college and know from first hand experience how our colleges have shaped our lives… (for example, my best friends to this day are largely college friends.)</p>
<p>It is more abstract to the kids; that why they handle it better.</p>
<p>if you look at some of the specific school threads, Yale for instance, you’ll find plenty of kids agonizing over this too!</p>
<p>Eddy, I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to notice the fashion show. Honestly, I found myself eyeing some of the girls up and down…like I would if I were strolling the streets of Manhattan checking out the fashions. I’ve never owned clothing so expensive. I wondered if it was just because it was a Saturday night and maybe they were all going out. But, everybody??? Did you notice any of this at other schools? Really, I never thought of Penn as a being this way. Is this a trend for all Ivies? What happened to the “college sweats” as being the daily dress?</p>
<p>At Stanford, it seems like more than half the kids walking around (boys and girls) are wearing grey or red/cardinal Stanford T shirts, long sleeved T shirts, or sweats, depending on temperature conditions. It is not very fancy! (Harvard or Berkley attire is not well accepted on that campus, however, from what I understand 
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<p>Momsdream:</p>
<p>I read of the angst involved in getting the fit right. So many different approaches: Urban vs. rural; large vs. small; public vs. private; research university vs. liberal arts college. You get the idea. When it comes right down to it, I suspect fashion is probably every bit as good a determinant as all the rest. It was (subconsciously) for my son.</p>
<p>His list was simple. Only a large, urban school would do. No suburban or rural locations, and anything less than 3,000 students was off the list. We visited over a dozen schools that were on his final list. While visiting one urban university, we decided on a small detour to visit several of the area LACs.</p>
<p>Skipping ahead, he decided to do an overnight (and he only did one) at one of these LACs at which we stopped. When I arrived the next day to retrieve him, I stood on the porch of the admin building, looking out over the great expanse of lawn. I couldnt help but notice how similar these students looked to my own. I saw one fellow who made me smile; he seemed so much like my son. Worn out jacket. Scruffy boots. Frayed pants. Imagine how silly I felt when he turned and started walking right at me. This was my son. At that moment, I knew he had found the right school. Why? Hed never feel out of place. He, however, needed slightly more convincing.</p>
<p>When the time came to decide on which schools to apply, and whether to apply early decision, the comfort factor loomed large. My son had not fallen for any school, which made it all that much easier. And less emotional. Needless to say, he applied early decision to the school at which he felt most comfortable. Of course, he cited the academic merits, the quality of the faculty and the acceptance rate into graduate programs, among the other qualities of the school, as his reasons for selecting this particular school. And he rationalized the suburban setting, noting the easy commute into a major city, and how he could take courses at other consortium-member schools. But as he and I (and now you) know, the most important factor driving his decision was what you referred to as the fashion show. Specifically, the thrift shop look. Why not?</p>
<p>Yes, the right fit. I guess that is what the colleges look for although what they, especially those top ones, think of as a right fit remains a mystery. </p>
<p>My son is pretty cool, but I am the one that is agonizing, although I dont show it to him. Sometimes I think he has a good chance and sometimes I feel he ought not to have even applied. I guess I am either over-rating or under-rating him in turns. I felt better reading the following from last year’s archive. Of course I dont know how truthful the post is. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?70/41651[/url]”>http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?70/41651</a></p>
<p>By Golf32386 (Golf32386) on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 08:49 pm: Edit </p>
<p>I would just like to let everyone know that it is possible to get into Princeton without sacrificing everything in high school. I was the typical high school student who went to parties, didn’t do my homework sometimes, didn’t lock myself in my room on weekends to study, and got in ED. I got a 1430 on my sat, 750 SAT II writing, 4 Euro Hist Ap, 5 US Hist AP, 3 Spanish AP, and 3.9 wieghted GPA. I also did model un all through high school which I was the president of. I am not a legacy or a recruited athlete. Basically, I did what I enjoyed throughout high school. I didn’t do stuff just because it was the “right” thing to do for college and I had a blast. If you don’t get into a college, Princeton especially, it means you weren’t meant to be there. If you do what is natural throughout high school, and do what you like, then you will get in if you were meant to be there. Anyway thats all I have to say because I know alot of people stress about this kind of stuff. (I did too, I’ll admit, while I was waiting to hear from them…) My bottom line is, don’t stress! It’s not healthy. But yeah, Princeton is awesome though. Im super excited! If anyone else who is going next year is reading this…LETS CHAT</p>
<p>We’re sweating ED here, too. DD is fairly cool, but underneath she’s anxious. Less anxious now that there is a definite date and time. i think we’ve all convinced ourselves that she could be happy at any one of her top 4 choices. Now if ED falls through, and EdII falls through - the wait up to APril 1 will be excruciating.
She finds out Thurs, and has a band concert Thurs night with a small solo, if I was her I wouldn’t check until after the concert, no matter what the decision, the aftermath would be such that I couldn’t concentrate on my solo.</p>
<p>Cangel, </p>
<p>My D also musing an EDII app-- </p>
<p>Easy enough if D is outright denied at EDI school; move on to #2 school. </p>
<p>But what if your child is <em>deferred</em> at EDI school? Would your child still apply ED2 for the statistical advantage, or take his/her chances and hold out for #1 choice? </p>
<p>Complicating the thinking, my D is recruited athlete and I think, whether ED1 or ED2, your coach support is likely to be better if they know you will matriculate. But you could have the situation of now being committed at #2 school while still having a shot at #1 school… </p>
<p>Any thoughts on this?</p>
<p>I think it entirely depends on how differentiated #1 and #2 are in your child’s mind. I am not sure how much of a boost statistically the kids get from ED II, I am sure it varies school to school but is never as big as for ED I…</p>
<p>The question we asked our son for ED I was…if you apply to X will you ever regret not applying to Y and Z (other schools he liked nearly as much). It was only reasonable to apply ED I to X when the answer was no. I think the same applies to ED II. If there would be even the smallest regret for a missed opportunity at the ED I school, it isn’t worth it in my opinion.</p>
<p>SBMom, I asked her that very question, and her answer was “I’m not telling.” So if she is deferred, I don’t know that she will actually apply EDII. Her answer to your question, Robyrm, is a little interesting - she actually has 4 schools that are differentiated and ranked in her mind, but all very,very close, she thinks she would be quite happy to attend any of the 4. The ED I and II schools were #1 and #2, but they each have definite disadvantages in comparison to schools #3 and 4. The overwhelming thing for her was to be FINISHED. SHe’s never particularly enjoyed high school, and I think she feels her last opportunity is this spring and she doesn’t want it “messed up” by worrying over college. ALso, probably 2/3rds of the kids in her class know where they are going, so its getting old explaining why she doesn’t know yet.
She said to me “I like and dislike things about all 4 of them (the schools), this is the order that they are in, and I don’t think I’m going to know anymore about them in the spring or make a better decision - this is my decision.”
She has overnighted at the EDI school, but not at the EDII school (I have the most trepidation about the EDII, she’s may or may not love the EDI school, but she can’t know any better about it unless she was actually a freshman).
This approach suits her personality, she’s really fairly mature in her outlook - her attitude is “I think I’ll like this place, so I probably will like it. I know there are other schools that I would like too, but I can’t go to all of them, and I don’t REALLY know until I get there, so why fret - let’s get it over with.” She’s not much of a shopper either! Very “manlike” attitude, like her father.</p>