early action - other schools?

[Paulus89]

<p>i have a friend who claims uchicago can’t stand applicants who apply to any other schools under early action/decision and told me that applying to even one other EA school would hurt my chances for admission. is there any validity to this? how would they even know if i applied to another EA school?</p>

[kemet]

<p>If they cared that much, they’d have ED instead. :rolleyes:</p>

[idad]

<p>How would they know where else one applies?</p>

[Katharos]

<p>I applied to three schools, all EA, and I was accepted by all three. I don’t think Chicago knew to which other schools I applied, muchless that I applied EA. So, it won’t hurt you, I suppose, as it didn’t me.</p>

[drummerdude_07]

<p>It’s highly unlikely they are going to check if you are doing EA/ED at a bunch of other schools. All the admissions people (including Ted O’Neill himself) I’ve heard state that the adcom hates the idea of ED, and they bascially want the kids to apply wherever and whenever they damn well please. But I suppose that could make them “mad” if they discovered you were doing ED somewhere since they hate it, though I find that a pretty farfetched scenario.</p>

[Paulus89]

<p>yeah, uchicago is my absolute first choice so i’m definitely not going to apply ED anywhere</p>

[ohio_mom]

<p>My son was admitted to Chicago RD after being admitted to Case EA last year. Obviously, it would be a problem if you applied EA to Chicago and ED to another school. Perhaps your friend is confused about this.</p>

[writonthetransom]

<p>It’s not a problem to apply to one school ED and another regular EA (not single choice), ohio_mom. Of course, if you get in to the ED school, you can’t go to the EA one, but you’re usually allowed to apply to both.
I’d only think UChicago wouldn’t like someone applying to other schools early, esp ED, because applying early is usually a first-choice kind of thing and UChicago would like to see that you really love it best.</p>

[ohio_mom]

<p>writonthetransom -
actually, it would be a problem at both Brown and Harvard. If you are considering applying ED, you must read that school’s ED or SCEA contract very carefully. For example, Harvard allows you to apply SCEA to them and EA to <em>public</em> institutions and to rolling admissions schools.</p>

[tennisdude]

<p>thats SCea, single choice early action. its differerent than plain old ‘early action’</p>

[jimbob1225]

<p>im pretty sure, writonethetransom, that you can’t apply to any other schools early if you apply ED somewhere, same as SCEA</p>

[writonthetransom]

<p>Got this from Columbia’s website:
According to National Association for College Admissions Counseling guidelines, “while pursuing admission under an Early Decision plan, students may apply to other institutions, but may have only one Early Decision application pending at any time.” While Columbia does not necessarily encourage the filing of both Early Decision (binding) and Early Action (non-binding) applications, we do not prohibit candidates from doing so. However, candidates should be aware that Columbia’s Early Decision program is a binding agreement and a candidate will be expected to enroll, regardless of any pending applications (early or otherwise).</p>

<p>So according to this, unless it’s SCEA, you can apply ED and to other schools early as long as there aren’t two ED. My sis applied ED to Williams and EA to Colorado College, and I’m sure she violated no rules.</p>

[drummerdude_07]

<p>It depends on the school, but their definitely are ED schools whose policies forbid doing open EA anywhere else. I also don’t believe UChicago in particular would be miffed at you doing ED somewhere else. They are very laissez-faire on early admissions, and just throw EA out there as an option to keep up the early competition with other schools.</p>

[cantthink]

<p>I think ED is bull. This is why I applied EA to Chicago (was accepted EA) and didn’t bother applying early anywhere else because my other schools had binding admission (and I didn’t know I was going to apply to Harvard at the time).</p>

<p>If you really, really want to go to Chicago, I would suggest applying there early and waiting for reg for the other schools. Less muddling.</p>

<p>However, I don’t see how they would find out where else you applied early. I don’t believe in the college conspiracy thing.</p>

[Paulus89]

<p>thanks for all of your responses</p>

[ohio_mom]

<p>Brown’s ED:

Early Decision is a plan under which first-year applicants to Brown may apply for admission in the fall of their senior year and receive an admission decision in mid-December. Early Decision is intended for students who consider Brown their top choice and therefore are willing to make a binding commitment to attend Brown if admitted. Early Decision is reserved for applicants who have not applied to any other Early Decision or Early Action programs (Ivy League or non-Ivy League institutions). Brown reserves the right to withdraw the applications of Early Decision applicants who do so. You may, however, apply to other colleges at any time under their respective Regular Admission programs.

Harvard’s SCEA (from their FAQ’s)

May students apply to other early programs if they apply Early Action to Harvard?
Generally, no. Students applying to Harvard under the Early Action program are not ordinarily permitted to apply early elsewhere in the fall, either under Early Action or Early Decision programs. Harvard will rescind its offer of admission to a student who does so. </p>

<p>Students are allowed to apply in the fall to public institutions under non-binding rolling or Early Action programs, and they may apply to colleges under Interim Decision programs, which inform applicants of admissions after January 1. They may also apply in the fall to any institution under it Regular Action program, and to foreign colleges and universities on any application schedule. </p>

<p>After students receive notification from Harvard’s Early Action program (around December 15), they are free to apply to any institution under any plan, including binding programs such as Early Decision II.

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[Walking_With_A_Ghost]

<p>I applied to MIT and U of C early… U of C either didn’t know or didn’t care, because I got in early… do whatever you want, U of C doesn’t care</p>

[felipecocco]

<p>if you do violate a rule and they do find out, then they are certainly capable of rescinding your (possible) admission. So, like canthink, I dont believe in these conspiracies, but dont do anything you are not supposed to do… especially submitting deposits to two schools… cause thats just being an a-hole.</p>

[ohio_mom]

<p>From an MIT 2005 press release -

Unlike most Ivy League schools, MIT offers a nonbinding early action program; prospective students may apply simultaneously to other universities and are not obligated, if admitted early, to accept, Jones explained. </p>

<p>By contrast, since 2003, Harvard, Stanford and Yale have offered nonbinding early action programs but have not permitted early applicants to apply elsewhere. Other Ivy League colleges prohibit multiple early action applications and “bind” early applicants to take the space, if admitted.

As long as you follow the rules (as ghost was), I really don’t think Chicago cares. If you are applying to a binding ED or SCEA school and Chicago EA, the big danger is having your admission at the binding school rescinded, and being black-listed. I don’t recall this happening this year, but one of the CC kids did have this happen last year, and it was not pretty.</p>