Economy AND close ties with parents cause college grads to move home

<p>"A generation ago, college seniors were eager to earn their degree, land a job, and make it on their own. These days it’s more likely that they’ll be returning to the very bedroom where they spent their childhood.</p>

<p>The number of college graduates moving back home appears to have increased steadily over the past decade. Surveys conducted annually by Collegegrad.com, a job networking website, have found that the number of graduates moving back home with their parents has risen each year over the past decade, to the point where 80 percent of recent graduates responding to its online survey moved back home last summer. That compares to 77 percent in 2008, 73 percent in 2007, and 67 percent in 2006. The US Census Bureau does not keep statistics on college graduates returning home.</p>

<p>The reasons that college graduates are moving in with their parents are obvious — the economic slump, increased competition for jobs caused by high unemployment, and student loan debt that needs to be paid off. But also contributing to the trend is something not so obvious: the close relationships that many of today’s young adults have with their parents…"
[Tough</a> times, tighter parental bond has college grads moving back home - The Boston Globe](<a href=“http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/family/articles/2010/06/08/tough_times_tighter_parental_bond_has_college_grads_moving_back_home/]Tough”>http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/family/articles/2010/06/08/tough_times_tighter_parental_bond_has_college_grads_moving_back_home/)</p>

<p>This reminds me of the late 70s/early 80s when many new BC grads worked at the local grocery store after graduation.</p>

<p>One downside to moving back home is if your parents live in an area with few job opportunities. It can be better for job prospects to live near a major metro area. I’m a bit surprised that a grad with a BU degree in neuroscience is having trouble finding work.</p>

<p>Yep, son just graduated from MIT and is living at home this year while he commutes to the city 1 hr away. Next year he goes to grad school with all his loans paid off and enough money to spare.</p>

<p>It makes much economic sense to merge households, especially in harder economic times.</p>

<p>Our kids are very close to us. I don’t expect them to want to move home EVER. So far they haven’t. It is not something they have ever considered. Both are working in their fields. We do not support them financially. However, we are not making them pay for college loans. We are paying for that as was the intent from the get go.</p>

<p>Excellent response soozievt.</p>

<p>The title of this article is misleading. What I read gave some examples of kids feeling like it was OK to move back home. Then the author of a book was quoted</p>

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<p>I actually find this kind of insulting to parents from previous generations. I haven’t read her book but it isn’t clear to me that our parents and grandparents were somehow less connected with their kids.</p>

<p>I fully intend to discourage my kids from moving back home after they are finished with college. I know that sometimes it is a necessity and in those cases they will always be welcome. But I’m raising them to be independent adults. How connected I am with them is of less importance to me than whether they can function on their own.</p>

<p>The Millenial Generation is more connected to their kids. Consider it an insult, or not…but my parents didn’t have a clue where I was 24/7. It was uncommon for my generation (born in the 60’s) to be as close to our parents. We lacked the technology to be as connected as the current generation is.</p>

<p>We now have cell phones and text messages, have brought them on playdates and club sports, music practice, extracurricular activities, etc. </p>

<p>I don’t believe the article is suggesting that parents loved their children less. Just that they weren’t as involved as the helicopter parents of this generation.</p>

<p>The thing is…parents can be well connected to their kids (we certainly are!!) but also raise them to be independent. We don’t have to encourage our kids to live on their own. They want to. They are pursuing their dreams. They stay in touch constantly but the idea of moving home has never entered into their thinking (nor ours). They haven’t even lived at home a single summer after HS. One of my kids moved to Europe today for a full year to work at jobs she initiated on her own. She has been in touch with me a couple of times today to let me know how it went. She has lived overseas five times now and is 23 (this doesn’t count trips overseas as well). She doesn’t know anyone and this won’t be the first time she has gone off some place independently. Yes, we are involved/interested/supportive parents, but the kids are very independent. Well connected? Yes. On their own? Yes. It is not as if our kids are not welcome home but they would never think of it due to their ambitions and dreams. They are adults. I never lived at home once I left for college either.</p>

<p>I am MUCH closer to my kids than I or any of my siblings ever were with our parents. Or ex-H & sibs with his parents. Don’t know if it is generational; I suspect some of it is. I have raised my kids very differently, and have a much tighter emotional connection with them. Of course, that won’t be true of all families; many of my parents’ generation were closer with their kids, and I know some of this generation that aren’t very close with theirs.</p>

<p>I would not mind at all if my Ds came home to roost for a while during grad school, or even if they hit a rough patch for some other reason (health issues, long term unemployment). They are well on their way to being responsible adults, and I don’t doubt their ability to live on their own. But I love having them around, and would be happy to welcome them home to live if they wanted to.</p>

<p>It is a fairly recent change in human society that all the children move away and establish separate households from their parents, and in many parts of the world that is still not the case. Many people seem to think that it is unhealthy in some way to have multiple generations living in one household. Seems to me that we gain some things and lose some things either way, but I don’t automatically assume that it best that my kids live in separate households even when they are adults.</p>

<p>Obviously, it’s what we hope for our children. To grow up and be self-sufficient, raise families of their own and be happy.</p>

<p>This generation coming out of college is going to face (or has, already) the worst job market in decades. For teens, it’s the worst job market since 1969. They may struggle financially to be stable enough to afford rent and insurance and everything else, without relying on the safety net of their parents. This is not to say that we want them living in our basements when they are in their 30’s, but parents and their adult children can cohabit together, if needed.</p>

<p>One of my kids is on the other side of the world, studying in the middle east right now. I expect him to probably never move home for any length of time due to his future career choices. His siblings, who knows? My house isn’t huge, but if one or more of the kids needs to move back home after college, it would be fine. I would expect a few ground rules to be observed, however - ie, doing their own laundry, helping around the house, for example. I would hope these kids are productive - either seeking employment, further education or volunteering. </p>

<p>Each situation is unique.</p>

<p>We certainly never expected our D to move home after college. Her goal has always been to “explore every continent” and she lived and worked in China for half a year while an undergrad, in addition to several other abroad experiences. Certainly she was no homebody.</p>

<p>However, it so happens that we live in the suburbs of a major metro area (Philly). When D graduated from college in '06 she was interviewing for jobs in Boston, NYC, DC and Baltimore in addition to our area (Philadelphia). It turned out that the best fit job for her was in our area. This outcome was a total surprise to all of us, but it then seemed silly for her to rent an apartment 20 minutes from our home. To be honest, I was not expecting or wild about this turn of events (liked having that empty room ;)) but it turned out to be a very positive experience. </p>

<p>It was like living with a different person than the one who had lived here in high school. She was so evolved and personally developed, but she was also very busy, between a demanding job and her social life – and occasional travel to those additional continents she wanted to explore! – so that she was not hanging out at home much. But we enjoyed her when she was here. </p>

<p>It was also nice because D got to be here for her brother’s senior year in high school, and she appreciated being a part of that. </p>

<p>We had no curfew, etc. and she spent numerous weekends with friends. All we asked was that she let us know whether or not she should be expected home, so we would not worry.</p>

<p>A bonus for us as parents was that this D, who had not dated much in high school, was dating after college (her field is predominantly male) and we got to spend time with and come to know several guys she dated by spending casual time with them when they would come by. We would not have had this had D lived in another city. Yes, we could have** met** guys she was dating, but not gotten to know some of them as well as we did.</p>

<p>However, I would not have wanted the arrangement to last longer than the three years it did. I am very glad though that D saved a substantial nest egg which she can take to wherever she locates once finished with grad school.</p>

<p>Anyhow, I just wanted to express that although D’s choice to do this was voluntary, rather than forced by economic challenges, it can be a very positive experience all around. </p>

<p>As with so many things, there are LOTS of variables and what works well for one family may not work for another. It is all about choices and different choices can be good in different ways.</p>

<p>I do feel bad for families whose location is such that they know the odds are against their kids ever living in their area again. It is simply not a choice for kids whose career goals can’t be met locally. I know that does not mean they can’t be psychologically close, especially with online and other communications, but it is still nice to actually be able to spend time together casually, without the hassle of travel and planning. It was not a factor we considered when deciding where to live and bring up a family, but it certainly has been an unanticipated bonus of our location.</p>

<p>I grew up in NYC (Manhattan) and lived at home for six months after college and then got my own apartment, but was still both living and working in Manhattan. So I guess I have been spoiled by always living in a large metro area to which kids often do return to pursue their careers. It was the exception for kids I knew to relocate from the NYC area after college and I am one of the few in my own family who eventually moved as far as a couple of hours away. My siblings and cousins remained in the NYC area. So I think a LOT depends on where these kids were raised and what opportunities are available locally. It would be interesting to do a study on return rates factoring in where the kids were raised.</p>

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<p>couldn’t have said it better. Separate doesn not necessarily mean more independent; sharing households does not mean less so. That we place a value judgment on what is the norm throughout history is weird, not to mention sad. One of my kids lives happily on her own, but by happenstance ten minutes away; the other lives between our homes, but not usually where we are at the same time, and pays rent/does his share of chores, etc. Both are fine, upstanding adults.</p>

<p>Many families subsidize their kids’ independence; when my D lived in NYC, she didn’t receive a dime from us, but on CC that seemed to be the exception. Either way, the judging seems misguided, and a bit tunnel-visioned (“I see it *this *way, so if someone is doing it *that *way, then they have problems.”) Does anyone really need that???</p>

<p>Just to be clear, I don’t mind if my kids were to come home and live here. They certainly are permitted to do so!! Open door any time. I just don’t think either one has considered it and it hasn’t truly entered my mind either. I’m just saying that the quote about kids moving home due to being closer in their relationships should not imply that those young adults who opt to live independently are not also super close with their parents. I think no matter where we were located, neither of our girls would opt to live at home once they went off on their own to college. I think they would find any way to earn enough to live on their own (even if not in their fields, though so far both do work in their respective fields). Not knocking the choices of others though! Just sharing the perspective of my own kids vis a vie the article.</p>

<p>EDIT…just cross posted with garland. One way is not better than the other. And yes, there is a third situation where kids live away from home after graduation and are subsidized by their parents. Not the case with our kids who are expected to support themselves if they opt to live away from home (and they have chosen that).</p>

<p>I lived at home for a year and a half while in college, and for 6 months after graduation because I was in a temporary training program in the same city. It was horrible and I couldn’t wait to move out. I obviously didn’t have a close relationship with my parents! The only way I would expect my kids to live with us again is if they were unable to find a job. If they are working, they need to be on their own, even if they have to have a roommate to afford it.</p>

<p>Why? How come what was the norm throughout history is now unacceptable?</p>

<p>^^^To me what is “acceptable” is very individual and cannot be generalized.</p>

<p>There are quite a few families in our neighborhood that have adult children, and often their kids, living with retire-age parents. Generally it’s because they can’t afford to move out. I can’t think of a single person from my HS days that lives with their parents. I wonder if it’s more prevalent in the burbs, where costs are higher, than in less expensive areas?</p>

<p>I guess what I’m saying is if this is an increasing trend, then our neighborhood will have a sizable percentage of households with adult kids living with parents.</p>

<p>Soozie–I agree.</p>

<p>When I graduated 30+ years ago we lived at home to save money until we got married. It wasn’t very long and we were expected to pay board. Does anyone get married soon after college anymore?</p>

<p>The average age of our nieces and nephews getting married these days is about 30! </p>

<p>Many things which were the norm throughout history are now not common in US society. I think people should do what they are comfortable with. I certainly did many things my friends think are weird. I don’t know any young adults living with parents in my suburban neighborhood.</p>