<p>is he gonna need a translator…i speak ebonics fluently…</p>
<p>perhaps! good idea sparticus…or should I say REAAAAAAAALLLLLY good idea sparticus ;)</p>
<p>Example Translation: “yo, that’s solid S-dawg. yeah, for real–good s*** s-dawg; props…” <em>pound</em></p>
<p>see…I know my stuff! :D</p>
<p>My dad worked for AIG and they had ebonics translators…</p>
<p>it’s all about proper placement of eezies and izzles.</p>
<p>Some of us, me included, shouldn’t really be laughing at him. I mean he has managed to get admission, wheres I’m still crossing my fingers and hoping I get in RD.Sooooooozzzzzz…</p>
<p>“is he gonna need a translator…i speak ebonics fluently…”</p>
<p>were u referin to me???</p>
<p>yeah, “ebonics” is a term for the gangster/ghetto dialect in america, properly known as African American Vernacular English. <a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jive_(dialect)[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jive_(dialect)</a></p>
<p>Umm, that was pretty politically incorrect Sparty. “Ganster/Ghetto.” I dunno where that came from, as you are generally very respectable and respectful, but that was a sketchy statement. </p>
<p>I’m not trying to be a prick about it, but, just be careful.</p>
<p>how would you prefer ebonics to be characterised? i think that “gangster speak” or “ghetto speak” conjures the most accurate idea of the kind of dialect being spoken than any other way I can think of expressing the idea.</p>
<p>It’s certainly more accurate in conjuring the desired resulting idea, not to mention vastly more politically correct, than making a sweeping generalization like saying “how black people talk.”</p>
<p>"Umm, that was pretty politically incorrect Sparty. “Ganster/Ghetto.” I dunno where that came from, as you are generally very respectable and respectful, but that was a sketchy statement.</p>
<p>I’m not trying to be a prick about it, but, just be careful."</p>
<p>I really hope you are kidding…</p>
<p>be careful about what?</p>
<p>moose and blackferrari:
yields
Just thought that might be useful.</p>
<p>Moose: he meant be careful about offending others, I believe.</p>
<p>For some reason, I thought this forum didn’t support BB code O___O good to know it does.</p>
<p>No, sparty I’m sure you didn’t take offense to my above statement as Moose seemed to. I know you are more logical than to take offense. I am not sure how you should define ebonics, perhaps, “an african american english vernacular” would have been enough, but you could have added the “which has been used and popularized by many gangster rappers.” I was more concerned with the term “ghetto speak”–it just hit me funny. I dunno, you know I wasn’t trying to be an @$$.</p>
<p>Sorry if I offended you, Moose; my statement was not meant to offend (“I’m not trying to be a prick about it”) anyone.</p>
<p>why r u sorry ferrari- i find "ghetto speak"offensive im sure there r white people who speak ebonics and to call it an "african american venacular "wow way to take it to academia and to directly relate ebonics to rappers and gangster is offensive im sure not every black person who lives in the ghetto is an ebonics speaking thug- prejudices come out and you aren’t even aware of it</p>
<p>Woah baby, lol… I was apologizing if I offended people with my “vernacular.”</p>
<p>As for the “prejudices…” Break down the word EBON-ics, and know where it comes from.</p>
<p>As you affirmed, the term “ghetto speak” was the one I was more offended by, and for the reasons you listed, abike, I just didn’t want to bother with the list because I figured it was assumed as to why the term was offensive.</p>
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<p>Why would I be offended? I just wonder why people are always so politically correct. If I were offended, it would be quite hypocritical.</p>
<p>blackferrari: i didn’t find you to be a jerk or anything; I was just explaining my reason for describing it as such.</p>
<p>abike11: I think blackferrari was describing stereotypical gangster rappers as a subset of the typical inhabitants of the pop culture american ghetto, not the other way around, with all inhabitants of the pop culture american ghetto being gangster rapper types. I think it is certainly fair to assert that most gangster rappers speak in a varient of ebonics.</p>
<p>There are relations that aren’t necessarily causalities and connected groups where one isn’t a subset of the other. Just because gangster rap, ghetto culture, and black americans are all directly related does not mean that each completely encompasses the other two. </p>
<p>Before tempers flare lets remember to try and not make too many inferences about what other people are saying, and try to base our discussion more on explicit refrences and deal with inferences by asking questions rather than making accusations.</p>
<p>yah i watched the direction of the conversion before commenting. hit a funny bone with me as much as the conversation on the secret societies forum- everyone being so open about race and stuff i was thinking yah right but when you get down to the gritty stuff everyone shows their hand-them not expecting it them self</p>
<p>I was thinking that the reference to gangster rap was more of a reference for the original question of “what is ebonics?” That reference may have cleared up the definition. Again, if that reference had helped, a stereotype of gangster rappers would have been put in play (to keep with the card game reference by abike), but that (in my opinion) would be a more accaptable way to use the term “gangster,” since that is what the group calls themselves and prefers to be called.</p>