EE20N vs. EE40

<p>How are EE 20 and 40 related to each other? Is it reasonable to take 40 before 20 or should we always take 20 first?</p>

<p>Also, which one is harder or more time-consuming?</p>

<p>Thanks in advance!!</p>

<p>bump. Also, is Physics 7B really required for EE40? I want to take it over summer but I haven't taken it yet, only AP Physics. I'd probably self-study the circuits out of the 7B book. If it's essential to the class, I'll probably end up up just taking Physics 7B over summer.</p>

<p>ee 40 and ee20 are pretty unrelated, so the order doesn't really matter. I personally prefer ee 40 a lot more than ee 20, so to me ee 40 is a lot easier than ee 20.</p>

<p>I believe physics 7b is pretty helpful in ee40 especially in the beginning of the class when you need to solve circuits, but I personally don't think it's essential.</p>

<p>what concepts would I really need to firmly grasp from Physics 7B? I'm guessing just the basics of circuits and capacitors right? Electrostatics and magnetism aren't present in EE40 are they?</p>

<p>If I remembered correctly (I might be wrong) you only need to know the basics of circuits and capacitors and voltages currents and resistance. I think the first few lectures will be review so you might want to double check webcasts from previous semesters to see what exactly is needed.</p>

<p>I think EE 40 is supposed to be WAY more time-consuming than EE 20, and EE 20 is just a few problem sets and exams. If it's taught by Babak, they're going to be tricky things where you sort of have to think like him to get it [well, sometimes he gives an easy exam, but tends to make up for it later]. People can find it tough to study beyond trying to review the subtleties of the problems.</p>

<p>I guess I heard EE 40 is a bunch of stuff compressed into a term.</p>

<p>So would taking it during the summer be a bad call? I have to take at least 1 EECS course by summer if I want to transfer in by fall 2010 or else I have to wait until after that term to do it. My options would be CS61A (11 on waitlist, and no programming experience), or EE40. I'm just trying to do it before my GPA crashes. I got really lucky this year.</p>

<p>I think EE 40 from the sounds of it may be an insane cramming experience over summer. I'd do it if you have to though, I mean bite the bullet and do a lot of work.</p>

<p>I'd recommend CS 61A instead, since that class is less about material and more about high level programming ideologies. However, looks like that one is tough for you to squeeze in.</p>

<p>Physics 7B is highly recommended for EE 40 I imagine, since the circuit concepts are probably going to be similar, and the pace of EE 40 might hurt a lot more for someone who doesn't have the exposure.</p>

<p>I'm sure you could go in and manage it somehow, but prepare for a lot of time spent.</p>

<p>How unlikely is it that I can squeeze into CS61A?</p>

<p>And has anyone had any experience with 61A over summer? I'm just watching Harvey's lectures to get a head start but I'm only doing class examples just for time's sake.</p>

<p>EE40 and EE20 are pretty much unrelated. Personally I found EE20 is BY FAR easier and much less time-consuming than EE40. EE40 was the worst class experience I have had at Cal, mainly due to the teacher and TA's. Also, EE40 is lab and project-based, which translate into much more work. It might be easy for you if had a lot of exposure to circuits before though.</p>

<p>In terms of summer, go for CS61A instead. It's not bad at all and I don't think you'll have a problem getting in.</p>

worst class experience I have had at Cal,


<p>Yeah, depending on the professor, this could be the case. I think someone else I know had that too.</p>