EFC calculations and ED considerations

<p>Overseas:</p>

<p>I am no expert on residency, but I do know for UCs you will fill out a form in May, you might be able to find it on the website somewhere. It will ask about driver’s license, vehicle and votor registration, bank accounts, state income tax, etc.</p>

<p>They also ask about time spent out of state, but people overseas working should not have a big problem with that, they are really looking for people only in Cali for the school year & “home” for the summer.</p>

<p>If you are living overseas, it is my understanding you can be a "resident " of a particular state…hopefully CA is where you voted absentee in the last election. If you are paying US income taxes and pay state taxes in CA, it should be okay to be a resident for admissions and fees.</p>

<p>Yes, Canadian schools are cheaper than US, the international tuition in BC is fairly close to a UC resident fee!</p>

<p>Somemom, Yes, it’s where I vote in the elections. My parents need me home (California) right now to help them out; but I didn’t give up my job this year since I don’t know what my college expenses will be. I just can’t leave a job at the same time that my son is going off to college. So I am overseas for one more year and then home. I file US taxes but don’t pay since my taxes are high overseas and my salary is low. I haven’t filed California taxes since I have been overseas since they told me I didn’t need to. My salary came from outside of California but I do all my shopping there in the summers and have paid taxes over the years. But I am not convinced I will have residency for tuition until I am back.</p>

<p>I think, as an American citizen, you have the right to be a resident of some state, and if you voted that helps big time, same with driver’s license.
be prepared to include a note about your unusual circumstnaces and you likely have a good chance.</p>

<p>See if you can get a hold of that form via the fin aid website and make sure you meet as many conditions as possible now :cool:</p>

<p>Wow, you made my day! And it’s night here. I have their letter…in response to mine with all the items you need to include. I own 1/10 of an old quartz mine from the gold rush days. It’s not worth anything. But I am a property owner in California thanks to my gggrandfather. I put it on my css and the fafsa…all $1000 worth. And I pay property taxes! All $14 worth! Thanks. I don’t know how to use those smilies.</p>

<p>If it is night there, I’ll take off my shades :smiley:
If you want to learn smilies, you must have missed yesterday’s primer class in them.
When you are posting a message, click “go advanced” then go alllllll the way to the bottom of the screen, it should show “smilies on” if not, turn them on, if on, click that blue “smilies on” link and you will learn how to be cool…you’re from Cali, you gotta be cool :cool:</p>

<p>On the state residency whilst overseas thing, I believe you are allowed to choose your residence and should show some auspices of that (like voting, etc.) You can only pick one state though…one cannot decide later they want UMich and change, it is where you choose in fall of grade 12.</p>

<p>Glad to help.</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>I have smilies ‘on’, but no go.</p>

<p>:confused:</p>

<p>Thanks, Cur, just read your post from last night. Unfortunately, I missed the advanced tab (my HS only had College Prep for auto shop and home ec), no honors classes for us slackers), adn went down, down, down, and ended up in the Cafe. Since I was thirsty, I thought I might find a latte down there. Gosh, darn, the things kids say!</p>

<p>However, I survived and am back with parents, I think.</p>

<p>bluebayou, they don’t show up until you post or hit preview post. They are there in your last post, and they are looking :cool:.</p>

<p>I think I get it…left coasters ARE :cool:</p>

<p>Lucky I didn’t know how to do that earlier when my humor was being tested. My son claims he can hack into the site and add a few choice smilies!</p>

<p>[“I don’t understand the EFC business. I was given an EFC of 16,000+ with an income single parent (court custody of son) of less than 32,000.”]</p>

<p>I think something’s wrong with your data input. Have you tried a calculator again? Unless you have a huge amount of assets, your figures don’t make sense. Is the EFC including the non-custodial parent’s income? Usually EFC ends up being about 1/4 of takehome pay. At least in our case, our EFC for a family of 4 earning about a total of $90,000. a year, with no savings and home equity of about 100,000. was about 15,000. for parental contribution. You need to investigate why your EFC is so high. Something does not add up :)</p>

<p>This is waay too addictive :eek:
I have no reason to say eek, did not see a mouse, I just like that little guy.</p>

<p>This reminds me if the way you feel when you first discover email and feel the need to forward every lame joke that comes your way to every person you have ever met, in an effort to share and connect, certan they have never had the opportunity to see those cute little jokes or even better the action animation on dial-up speeds! Then a few months later, when you are much :cool:er, you cringe in embarrassment at your childish glee :P</p>

<p>OK, this is going to be a REALLY dumb question, but please enlighten me? With hope against hope that perhaps there was SOME way we’d qualify for some form of aid (which I highly, highly doubt), I used the EFC quick calculator on the College Board website. When it returns a number to me (using 2 different methodologies), is that a <em>total</em> expected contribution over 4 years, or an <em>annual</em> contribution? Just asking…</p>

<p>EDIT: OK, looks from some posts above that the figures reported are <em>annual</em>. OK, at least I did the exercise (sigh).</p>

<p>Yes, EFC is reported annually…bummer for you</p>

<p>For those that want to understand the “whys” to the calculation, browse the following beginning in page 49. btw: CB has lotsa wonderful stuff on its website – too bad its all hidden from our prying eyes. :)</p>

<p><a href=“College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools”>College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools;

<p>Thanks for the link bluebayou. Very interesting reading… Excellent info.</p>

<p>U R welcome.</p>

<p>If you do think that something may be wrong with the efc where do you go to ask for help? I telephoned the given number at fafsa and spoke with a young lad who said he would send a booklet to me. I don’t think I have anywhere to go. I am hoping the colleges will look at the data and ask a few questions. Is this possible?<br>
:confused:</p>

<p>By the way, I have taken my tutorial in smilies. Now to learn how to do the quote section.</p>

<p>Well, smilies are cool:cool:, but I’m moving on to greater learning with even cooler things,on my pallete. I’m still just a regular Joe,but somehow,I feel taller.</p>

<p>Does this make me a nerd …or a geek? I can’t remember. Maybe both.</p>

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<p>WOW, That’s Great!</p>