@zobroward Thank you for the correction. Yes, it was Jordan!
@busdriver11 do you know why the so-called “experts” have been all over the media saying that a mechanical failure of some type was unlikely?
I mean, as much as we hate to admit it, things can and do happen with planes- just like any other type of machinery. Honestly, with the incredible number of flights that happen every day, I’m surprised there aren’t more mechanical failures.
I’m not usually one who screams terrorism in most situations - but I just have a feeling about this one - given the increasing problems Egypt is having with Isis in the Sinai and that the flight was out of Paris. But it seems like they have found parts of wreckage from the plane (including body parts) so I expect it won’t be too long until we have have some preliminary answers - although it certainly won’t happen overnight.
The reason I’m leaning heavily against terrorism is that we’re now several days out and no one has taken responsibility. That goes against the MO of every other major organized terrorism event of the last 20 or so years. The terrorists LOVE taking credit for their work. The fact that there’s been silence makes me go “hmm…”
No one took credit for the 9/11 attack on the WTC for a very long time - well after it was determined that it was Al-Qaeda.
No one claimed responsibility for the Russian Metrojet crash for several weeks and then only after Russia announced its findings as to the cause,
9/11 was an obvious act of terrorism, and the world’s intelligence agencies knew within hours, if not minutes, who was responsible. I daresay the world’s Islamists also knew who was responsible as soon as they heard the news. At the time, there wasn’t a lot of competition to wage a campaign of terrorism against the United States.
I suppose I would bet that this is terrorism, but it’s nowhere near as obvious. Plus, there are myriad groups who would like to show they can carry something like this off against Egypt, and each of them has an incentive to claim they were the ones to do it. It would be less surprising at this point if there were multiple, conflicting claims of responsibility than that there be none.
True, @emilybee, but on 9/11 with 4 planes hijacked simultaneously and the news reporting it was Al Qaeda within minutes of the last crash, taking “credit” was not particularly necessary for those murderers to identify themselves.
The Metrojet crash emilybee referenced is a better analogy - there were no claims, but in the end, it was a terrorist act. A soda can bomb was all it took to bring that plane down. OTOH, some terror groups have been quick to claim responsibility for things that had nothing to do with them, so absence of claims or the opposite does not mean much.
That said, I will wait for the official word here.
Not necessary but they still didn’t take credit and neither did Isis in Sinai with Metrojet until several weeks later - and that was just last year.
I’m sure there have been other instances ( can’t remember if anyone claimed credit for right away (or ever) for Pan Am 103.) I don’t see not taking credit as being of any significance.
The only point I’m trying to make is that the absence of credit taking doesn’t point to it not being a terrorist act.
I basically agree with both @BunsenBurner and @emilybee that taking credit is not always necessary, and it may or may not have any significance. However, all the experts are saying that while it is probably terrorism, it is highly unusual for no group to take credit. So my only point is that @romanigypsyeyes raises a question that may bear watching.
BB and EB raise good points. I guess there have just been so many that I’ve forgotten some (what a statement that is…) I still think it’s weird for no one to take credit yet given that’s been very common, especially for Daesh.
I still despise the speculation done by the media because I think it fuels fears unnecessary.
Also, IMO, there is a special place in hell for reporters who are sticking their cameras and microphones into the faces of the grieving family members.
Romani, the trick is to stop watching. That is what HGTV is for! 
The news just said that there is evidence from some flight recorders that there was smoke in the plane before the plane went down. Could mean several things. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/egyptair-crash/egyptair-flight-data-shows-smoke-detected-bathroom-crash-report-n577716
I know, I know, EB. But since they took away my H2, I don’t know what else to leave on mindlessly in the background 
H2?
Thanks for the link, jym. Interesting new information, if that’s for real. Smoke in the avionics compartment, while potentially from a bomb, is also not that uncommon an occurrence. It has happened to a number of people that I know, including me, though it is generally a false indication, from water in the compartment. I had to do an emergency landing because of that once, and my husband had to do a rejected takeoff. He lost one of his three generators, already had one of the others inoperative, and was getting ready to do an overwater flight…if the water had taken out his other generator, it would have been serious trouble.
But anyways, there is a ton of stuff in that avionics compartment, and if there is a fire, it could be big trouble. It is also unpredictable, if it took out their radios first, and they had little way to communicate. However, you take care of first things first, aviate, navigate and communicate (notice that is last), so they might have been working the problem with no time to transmit, and it could have happened pretty quickly anyways. Just speculation. I guess it’s a good thing that they have located the crash site, as if they can recover the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder, they can probably figure it out.
There are intelligence people who are worried about the lack of declaration of responsibility. It could mean a dry run for a large scale coordinated attack.
^^scary thought.
The ACARS system showed there was smoke in the lav right behind the cockpit
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/20/478742641/egyptair-flight-ms-804-what-we-know-one-day-after
the ground crews, food service,maintenance people restaurant workers, TSA people etc…(100,000x of people move unchecked to and from departure areas, runways, luggage facilitates etc…in the united states. how that would change and the airports to continue function is not possible. france seems to be reviewing the people who had access to that plane and the purged a small group in the last year. looks like they are going to do a second round. (yes the plane had been in multiple countries prior to it going down) but france seems to be highly concerned.
p.s.
emilybee_ I need to correct you the station to watch is
Discovery Life Channel–85% awesome shows. do not get me wrong HGTV is a good station but DLC is awesome!