@bclintonk I certainly was meaning no disrespect to a school like Michigan (which I consider an “elite” 
). I was speaking from the experience of my brother, who went to a different flagship school (the state I will not name to avoid another argument) where the freshman seemed to major in beer, my brother included. Or my HS boyfriend who went to a different flagship school, who was like a fish out of water with few “like” students. Each of them lamented that they did not go to a school “like mine.” I was too flip with my characterization of “big state school.” Apologies.