Elites, here I come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Transfer Students
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<p>Sorry, for the exciting title, but I am VERY excited about college.<br>
I’m going to the University of Michigan LSA, and after 3 months of hard work, I want to transfer to the top universities of America. (My first choice is Wharton)</p>

<p>I got rejected from Wharton, Penn. And I am determined to get in again. Can someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE review my stats and resume and tell me if I have a chance to transfer to top elites?</p>

<p>I guess this is a my chances thread :confused: </p>

<p>Freshman: All A’s (no minuses)
Sophomore: 4 B’s + 1 C, rest A’s
Junior: 6 B’s, rest A’s
Senior: All A’s (no minuses)
(all equally spread out AP classes)</p>

<p>*ACT 32
*SAT II 800 Math II, 770 Math I, 740 Bio
*Final HS. Rank: 6/350</p>

<p>I took like 12 AP Classes. Self Studied some too.
5’s and 4’s on AP exams</p>

<h2>I’m also 1st generation Asian.</h2>

<p>This is my resume!!!
I know my other parts are very weak, but this is what my counselor says is my strong part. > </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.2046.x10hosting.com/temp/chanresume.doc[/url]”>http://www.2046.x10hosting.com/temp/chanresume.doc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>OK, now the college thing comes in!</p>

<p>LETS PRETEND that I get a 4.0 in Michigan 1st semester , with hard courses and required courses for transfer.</p>

<p>and LETS PRETEND that I raise my ACT to 33 or 34 (cumulative)</p>

<h2>and LETS PRETEND that I do something meaningful as EC</h2>

<p>Will I have a shot at the big colleges?? Especially Wharton??</p>

<p>THANK YOU SO MUCH CCers FOR HELPING ME</p>

<p>(i need to calm down now) bye !</p>

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<p>what is your overall high school GPA…if you’re applying as a sophomore to Wharton and others, it will play a big part.</p>

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<p>Don’t take this the wrong way, and I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors, but applying to Wharton is probably one of the hardest things anyone can do. Yes there are some wonder stories, and I wish I was one of them, but I applied 3 times to Wharton, and unfortunately didn’t get in all 3 times. They only took I believe 16 transfer students this year (both sophomores and juniors), and I was told by one of the admissions officers that these peopple were founders and CEO’s of their own companies and other crazy stuff, and each year the number of applicants to Wharton rises and rises. Just know what you’re going into when you do this. Wharton’s what I wanted and I never lost sight of that goal, and did just about everything I could to accomplish it, and if it’s what you want, follow your dreams too and shoot for the best. </p>

<p>Michigan’s a great school though, and Ross is an excellent excellent program. Your stats are impressive, but keep in mind every transfer applicant is most likely equivalent. Good luck at Michigan and good luck on your transfer endeavors.</p>

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<p>thanks,</p>

<p>my Weighted GPA is about 4.4, my unweighted is about 3.8</p>

<p>Rank is 6/350</p>

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<p>what UW grade does your valedictorian have?</p>

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<p>How can you have an unweighted 3.8 with 10 Bs and a C? It is highly unlikely you will get into a top college as a soph transfer that you didn’t get into out of high school unless you did something extraordinary during the summer or got a majopr honor, etc. 3 months at Mich doing well will not make the difference. Aim for junior transfer with fabulous grades, ECs and most important, great recs from highly regarded profs.</p>

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<p>Yeah, I think it depends on your valedvictorian’s stats.
Don’t the elites only pick the top 2% or something?</p>

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<p>If you live in St. Louis, you do not live on a farm. I’m from STL-- do you live in Wildwood or something? What high school did you go to? As far as transferring, Ivies (I don’t know about Wharton since I’m a Gov. major) want to see passion, hard work, seriousness of purpose and love for their school and a compelling and well presented argument of why their school would be perfect for you. Make it impossible for them to turn you down. Statistically, no one can give you “chances” for elite schools, for the most part, it comes down to the soft factors, like essays and recs. And are you kidding about admission coming down to the high school valedictorians stats? I just got in to Harvard as a sophmore transfer with a 3.4, probably JUST within the top 50 percent of my high school class, from Burroughs. I guess if you’re from STL, you’ll know what that means, though, so you have to weight it differently perhaps for other schools. Point being, decimals and 100 SAT points are not going to keep you out of elites, from my experience.</p>

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<p>sorry, meant to clarify, a 3.4 in high school, 3.7 in college</p>

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<p>No. I really dont think you have a shot with what you have. I’m sorry, i’m going to be blunt, but I really dont think you have a shot. I glanced over your resume and jesus christ, you have a 3 page resume? people who have worked in the industry for 20+ years have a 2 page resume, and you have a THREE page resume? If I were you, I’d trash the entire thing. There are always IFs and MAYBEs…you might have a shot after another year at umich and if you actually do something…in all seriousness, the only thing valueable i see in your resume is the website design thing. i’m sorry, dude. if i was an adcom at wharton with 30 spots for admission, i would reject you right now. </p>

<p>that’s not to say you dont have time. that’s not to say you dont have opportunities ahead of you. but right now, your application is weak. you need to drop this ‘elites here i come’ attitude and really get a dose of realism-im sure college will go ahead and do that for you.</p>

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<p>For Shaganov, I live in Wildwood, went to EHS</p>

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<p>For Shaganov, I live in Wildwood, went to EHS</p>

<p>Bobby, I have a 3.75 exact Unweighted GPA. Valedictorian has 3.82.
Valedictorian has 5 Bs</p>

<p>The only reason I’m ranked 6th is because I take unweighted orchestra class. I should be 3rd/350 if it was not for Orchestra.</p>

<p>Zeemookmook, how is my resume weak? I know it’s long, but is that a bad reason? I know many people accepted to hypsm with longer resumes than mine. </p>

<p>Can someone please read my resume and give me more feedback?</p>

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<p>Ok…I’m not saying your resume is bad. It’s also not about how long it is- I could probably string up a really long resume too.</p>

<p>Some of the most successful resumes are about being able to summarize on one page- who you are. What’s most important to you?</p>

<p>I’m not saying that you aren’t genuinely interested in everything you listed in your activities. I applaud you for doing everything you’ve done so far. It’s just that you are interested in Wharton. First off, it’s a very specialized school for business- one of the top 3 if not the top for undergrad business. You haven’t done much in that realm from your activities. It’s like trying to get into Juilliard having only played one year of piano- not impossible- but unlikely. </p>

<p>One more thing, I would get someone to sort out that resume of yours. It’s not really in the right format. Furthermore, I wouldn’t put your summer travels in your resume. </p>

<p>As with other colleges good colleges, sure, I’d say if everything you stated as “PRETEND” comes true, you would probably have a shot. I’m just curious- Michigan’s a great school. Why are you transfering? Give some concrete reasons. Wanting to go to a “better school” as a reason here probably won’t cut it.</p>

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<p>I could have gone to university of chicago , but I chose Michigan because of it’s 3rd in Business Ross. (those were only 2 schools I applied besides Wharton), and accepted to Both.</p>

<p>Michigan is NOT My dream school. I’m the type of person that will not stop until I get what I want. I will use Michigan ONLY as a stepping stone. Even if I really like Michigan, even if it is a very good school–It still will not make up for my dream of going further.</p>

<p>Also, Windclooud Ultra, I know my resume is splattered all over the place–I have too many activities–not centralized…very diverse</p>

<p>I don’t now if that’s a good or bad thing^^. But I do show leadership skills in almost everything I do. Almost all the activities on my resume have a leadership position, otherwise, with all the clubs and all…I would have 10 page resume.</p>

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<p>“Michigan is NOT My dream school. I’m the type of person that will not stop until I get what I want. I will use Michigan ONLY as a stepping stone. Even if I really like Michigan, even if it is a very good school–It still will not make up for my dream of going further.”</p>

<p>Lmao. See, this is what WindCloudUltra is talking about. You had better definitely NOT mention that in your essays, as that is EXACTLY what ppl at Harvard don’t want to hear. You have just shown your true colors, which aren’t necessarily horrible since many ppl think like that, but you definitely don’t want ppl to know that! You have just based yourself entirely on prestige and rank, and personally, if you let even an inkling of that shine through in your essays, you will be rejected.</p>

<p>One of the biggest factors that you control in the transfer process is the essay, and in that, you should explain clearly WHY you want/need to transfer. You should remember that many competitive applicants will be saying “I can truly benefit from this program at Harvard” or “Harvard can benefit me because of its resources.” Your argument, however, will be “Michigan was just a stepping stone and Harvard is the real prize.” I can bet you money you won’t get in with that one, b/c UMich is a great school and you have to have a REAL reason for transferring out. So think hard about that…I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with wanting to go on to the best school, but you should formulate a more concrete, and immediate reason for transfer.</p>

<p>For instance, I’m not applying to Harvard (but I am applying to Columbia) but my reason will be “I’m a community college student and I’ve just completed my second year here…there’s nothing else for me to do! And I believe Harvard can challenge me and prepare me for the world.” Given the same stats, despite the fact that you come from UMich, I will probably win. In other words, get a better reason. Sorry for rambling.</p>

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<p>Exactly. You need a reason to transfer. This isn’t just for the sake of getting in, but also for your own sake. You probably haven’t realized this yet, but transferring is a lot of work, pain, etc. You’ll have to ask your professors to give you recommendations, and I’ll guarantee that they’ll ask why you want to transfer. Your college essays will ask why you want to transfer. You’ll have to make friends in college knowing in the back of your mind that you won’t see them the next year.</p>

<p>I’m not saying that transferring is so horrible that it’s not worth it. I’m just saying that you need to be sure about it, and answer yourself this question: what do you have to gain? Going from a #3 B-school to a #1? Please. You’re in Michigan, and as long as you work decently hard you’ll have all the opportunities you want. Try relaxing a bit sometime.</p>

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<p>wow. i remember you in the penn thread… haha.</p>

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<p>yes, forgiven, hello it’s me again :)</p>

<p>are you at penn, forgiven?</p>

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<p>i wish. i will be joining you at michigan. i understand you though, i have thoughts of applying to wharton again, but they take very little junior transfers, and i wont be able to take the required pre-reqs.</p>