<p>YOU CAN’T GO AROUND STARTING THREADS LIKE THIS ON COLLEGE CONFIDENTIAL.</p>
<p>You’ll get yourself killed… or worse, expelled.</p>
<p>^hahahahahahaha</p>
<p>@mgsinc</p>
<p>Charlie Sheen has charisma which by no means equals intelligence… Intelligence is knowing when to stop drinking and doing drugs before getting your sitcom cancelled…</p>
<p>Overachiever- I believe when mgs said “but see” that meant here’s an example of the opposite. Therefore your post was off target.</p>
<p>Renegade - “You CAN be intelligent and use drugs and alcohol. Someone in my AP biology class gets As on every test and he gets hammered every weekend.”</p>
<p>This is also not what anyone is talking about. Using drugs and alcohol all the time is not equal to binge drinking on the weekends. A large percentage of college students do this regularly. What would be a good example - someone showing up to orgo after a bottle of tequila and shooting heroin. Usually drugs work well for creative types, like musicians and writers, poets. At least that’s the more stereotypical example of productive people who may be whacked out of their mind.</p>
<p>wolfmanjack: Yup. ‘See, e.g.’ and ‘but see’ are citation signals in the Blue Book, which is the citation format guide for legal documents. It was mostly an inside joke with myself :)</p>
<p>overachiever: While I don’t know that Charlie Sheen is the sharpest tool in the shed, your concept of intelligence is not one that I share. Attributing a life-ruining addiction to a lack of intelligence is a bit odd.</p>
<p>@mgcsinc</p>
<p>Where do you suppose Sheen got his “life-ruining addiction”? He got it from a lack of judgment which is definitely related to intelligence.</p>
<p>@overachiever</p>
<p>With all due respect, your impression of drugs and addiction has more in common with an ineffective children’s special on the dangers of drugs and alcohol than it does with reality. There is a long history of demonstrably brilliant people who die of drug overdoses; the idea that, but for a defect in intelligence, those people wouldn’t have gotten caught up in drugs is pure make-believe.</p>
<p>When I got to college (from Europe, where my family was abroad during my high-school years), I made a number of friends who had the same high-horse attitude that you have about drugs and alcohol – fueled, no doubt, by the extremes to which we go in this country to demonize even responsible substance use. (Having been a goody two-shoes myself, I probably would have come to college with that same attitude if I hadn’t lived abroad.) One by one, I watched as these friends came to terms with the reality that, absent an addiction, responsible substance use doesn’t have to mean complete abstention. Someday, it’ll happen to you.</p>
<p>People react differently to substance use; for a small group of people, it ruins their lives. Every day, people – intelligent people, even! – do things that have associated risks. A life without risk is a boring life indeed.</p>
<p>I think I agree but would like to point out that judgment is one way intelligence is measured.</p>
<p>@wolfmanjack: That’s true. And obviously intelligence is not one simple trait. My posting in this thread was just a reaction to “people who do drugs all the time are precluded from being intelligent or good students,” which is demonstrably false.</p>
<p>@mgsinc</p>
<p>Why did you take issue with what I was saying when it’s exactly what you’re saying right now? I said that people who do drugs ALL THE TIME, which is NOT reponsible drug use, are the people who aren’t considered intelligent. I have no problem with a person who does it from time to time as a social thing, but beyond that (like doing drugs as a means of relaxation on a weekly/daily basis) it gets to the point where you need to stop. People get hung up on the feeling drugs give them, and they make it a part of their routine, which is when the “risk” you were talking about, takes the upper hand, and you eventually lose control. It’s definitely not make-believe to say that a person who knows what reasonable drug use is, is MUCH more intelligent than a moron who does drugs frequently for the sake of living life with risk…</p>
<p>You misunderstand me.</p>
<p>Like I said earlier in the thread, I think there have been and are all-the-time drug users who are, in my book, extraordinarily intelligent. Nothing that I’ve said since contradicts that idea.</p>
<p>You asserted that Charlie Sheen (who I’ve never called ‘intelligent’) happened upon his addiction because of “a lack of judgment which is definitely related to intelligence.” You go on to concede that some use of drugs doesn’t indicate a lack of intelligence, but that un-moderated drug use does.</p>
<p>What’s missing from your story is an understanding of addiction. People don’t just make an irresponsible, unintelligent choice to become addicted; they often become addicted as a result of a number of factors that are beyond their control and that they couldn’t predict. When you label addicted people ‘morons’, you’re just demonstrating your own ignorance about addiction, in the same way that people who label homeless people ‘lazy’ fail to grasp that most homelessness is caused by mental illness and domestic abuse.</p>
<p>^ Within the context of what you’re talking about, you’re right. I know many people around me who are socioeconomic situations where they simply feel trapped and depressed, BUT I was thinking more in terms of the “rich kid” scenario of drug use since this entire drug conversation started about Miley Cyrus… But I didn’t really make myself clear enough, so yeah.</p>
<p>Plus, those people you are talking about who are extraordinarily intelligent are exceptions. MOST people aren’t brilliant enough to have their mind functioning at full capacity when it’s clouded by thoughts of having a good time 24/7.</p>
<p>Plenty of people at Brown do drugs, including alcohol, a lot, and do just fine and great in their classes.</p>
<p>To be more honest than people may want in a CC thread, I’ve been at Brown for a little over a month and about 80+% of people I know smoke weed. Which is not to say that 80% of people at Brown do; but I’d venture that most drink and according to a BDH article a couple months ago over 50% SMOKE DOOBIES once a month, or something like that.</p>
<p>Just saying. I had a pretty high horse attitude about drugs before too.</p>
<p>Just to bring it back to the original topic… is Emma still at Brown?</p>
<p>poor Emma…</p>
<p>Rumor has it that she’s transferring to NYU… That would be unfortunate, but it makes sense for a model/actress to want to be located in NYC instead of good ole’ Providence.</p>
<p>According to a news article, she’ll be taking a break from her studies to concentrate on making films, but will return at some point to finish her degree. Take this and make what you will of it :)</p>
<p>[Emma</a> Watson Temporarily Drops Out of College - MOVIE TALK on Yahoo! Movies](<a href=“http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/829-emma-watson-temporarily-drops-out-of-college]Emma”>http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/829-emma-watson-temporarily-drops-out-of-college)</p>
<p>“‘As you know, I love Brown and I love studying pretty much more than anything but recently I’ve had so much to juggle that being a student and fulfilling my other commitments has become a little impossible,’ she wrote on her official website.”</p>
<p>This just seems like a nice way of saying “I’m dropping out and never coming back.” Considering she toured NYU, and NY is a much more practical place to live when you are an actress, she is most likely going to NYU.</p>
<p>I highly doubt she’s “dropping out.”</p>