Based on your post, I infer that Emory’s yield is larger than expected (ie higher than in the past). Is that what happened?
Did you enroll at Emory thinking it was going to be a rah-rah kind of sports-oriented school? Why would you think that knowing that Emory doesn’t have a big (or any) Division I sports presence?
Emory does have fraternities/sororities. What is your objection there?
@2017transfer11 why didn’t you like emory? I’m transferring from a large city school with no spirit or connection at all, so anything would be an upgrade from this.
@2017transfer11 where are you transferring to? i don’t know or think housing affects who they accept for transfers.
did you apply as a transfer @MyOdyssey
@anonymoussss123 dude the guy says there’s not enough housing space for freshman bc they overaccepted freshman which means extra freshman will be put into sophmore dorms WHICH MEANS less space for sophmore transfers. Basically means they can’t accept as many transfer students because there won’t be housing for them (sophmores are required to live on campus).
@potato133 You’re right. Transfer acceptance rates fluctuate based on freshman retention and overall ability to accomodate. Technically, Emory could accept no transfers.
dude i am well aware, but they are going to accept who they are going to accept. the housing process is later @potato133
they did over accept, but the freshman class isn’t final until may 1, when everybody has to commit
@MyOdyssey social probation… just because they exist doesn’t mean they’re thriving/active. never thought it was a rah rah sports school but did not realize how little spirit/how negative the energy was. I’m not sure about the yield but could definitely be what caused the housing issue
Is the housing crisis for current freshmen going into sophomore year? If so, Emory won’t accept as many transfers regardless of the incoming freshmen class since they have too many current freshmen/ next year sophomores.
@Dontskipthemoose indirectly, yes. They overaccepted freshman and are having to house them in sophomore housing which is constricting housing for rising sophomores.
This is just what I have heard through this forum. We may never know.
how do they/ people know they over accepted freshman if the freshman official commitment date isn’t until may 1st? @sagacious97
That’s probably the last day to commit. It’s nationally known as “College Decision Day,” therefore commitments have probably surpassed the expected percentage of acceptances/commitments. @anonymoussss123
yeah probably thats true… i guess we’ll never know for sure and find out tuesday. @sagacious97
Does this only affect sophomore transfer applicants and not juniors?
@sagacious97 : This should not effect transfers as I do not believe even sophomore transfers are guaranteed housing. Also stop using the term “over-accepted”. The fact is, they did it intentionally. They wanted to increase the incoming class size. It was a a choice the interim dean made (could be to fill a revenue gap or whatever, they have always wanted to increase the enrollment maybe close to a Northwestern or something. Universities are sadly almost over-reliant on tuition revenue to fill revenue gaps especially privates). To suggest that it is an over-acceptance or “crisis” means that it was unintentional for the administration. Also, in keeping it real. The issue is for freshmen who they had to reallocate to Harris. Notice how Harris, a sophomore dorm could fit them.
My guess is that if they want to continue enrollment increases in future years they will a) lift the sophomore guaranteed housing as many other unis do not have it or b) consider new upper classmen housing (something they thought of maybe 2-3 years ago. Woodruff area was supposed to get something new).
@bernie12 As I prefaced in one of my posts, I have no insider knowledge on Emory’s admissions process. Someone speculated a potential excess of admissions. I simply am debunking the myth that freshman admissions do not affect transfer admittance. There is a finite amount of students they may accomodate. Unless an advancement has been made (dorms built, policy changes, etc.), ANY admission will affect transfers.
I do not mean to perpetuate any falsehoods–only applying logic to a common fallacy.
@bernie12 Also, please cite your sources if you truly wish to contribute any new hypotheses.
@sagacious97 : The interim dean told folks that they wanted to enroll more students. Campus and reslife seem as if they were caught off guard but that does not take away from the fact that it was an administrative decision. There is not really much speculation. Apparently faculty were already told about this as well as I talked to one about it well before this article. What appears to have happened is that reslife/housing was not notified on time. But this was not an accident. It is very difficult for a school with a 26-30% yield per cycle to merely admit like 100 more folks and expect to get 133 extra freshmen even in advance of the April yield events. I doubt that the adcom’s models are that off just for this year, so I have reason to believe faculty that told me about how the dean wanted higher enrollment (also, when you look at some of the intro STEM classes, the ceilings for enrollment are high in biology and there are more sections than normal in chem. Let us be honest and recognize that a huge chunk of students will come in for STEM initially so they would be the first to adjust things for a larger class. I talked to a STEM faculty about this maybe in February or march about the new chemistry curriculum and he mentioned the increase in enrollment coming in passing basically stating that it would put stress on the implementation of the new courses). Why? Not sure, but one can imagine it has to do with tuition dollars.
The Wheel Article: http://emorywheel.com/incoming-freshmen-displace-rising-sophomores/
Let us work this out: Emory usually enrolls maybe 1350ish students per year but suddenly wants 1450ish or something like that. Emory’s yield ranges from 26-30%. If they want to ENROLL 132 more people, then simply accepting 100 or so more than last year is just not enough to get all 132. They will likely pull from the wait-list. To say that they accepted to many people and then too many people enrolled would actually be good for Emory as yield would increase. However, they are not looking for that. They just want more students enrolled regardless of how many were accepted outright. Do you see what I’m saying. There is a reason behind it and the one I propose is just speculation, but this isn’t unusual for universities or colleges to have a threshold of students that they want as full pay for example. So desiring a sudden spike in enrollment could suggest that they want more tuition dollars. It kind of just makes sense.
so are transfer decisions affected or not so much @bernie12