<p>My DS received an ugly surprise when he read the footnote on the Freshman Engr schedule. In addition to the recommended 17 hrs, ChemE students are expected to somehow squeeze in 6 hrs of Chem 101+ lab.</p>
<p>We were thinking that if he uses one AP credit for the elective and postponed English 104 he could squeeze the Chemistry in.</p>
<p>How can we find out if the Engl 104 will be available next summer in summer school OR (even better) could he take it at a community college back home (Houston) next summer?</p>
<p>We will confirm at NSC later this week, but he’s trying to figure out a few potential schedules before he gets there.</p>
<p>Ok… I think I found my answer here [Texas</a> Common Course Numbering System](<a href=“http://www.tccns.org%5DTexas”>http://www.tccns.org). There’s a cross-listing of course numbers into “Texas Common Course Numbers”. It <em>looks</em> as though HCC offers the course. I guess you have to wait until their schedules come out to know where/when.</p>
<p>I guses we can plan on that with summer school at A&M as a (much more expensive) backup plan :-).</p>
<p>idk about ChemE… but if I were you I would talk to an advisor… because that English class is a prerequisite to SOOOO many other classes… holding off from taking it til summer might prevent them from taking a recommended class in the Spring… so just make sure holding off from it wont put you back further than what you started with.</p>
<p>Will definitely do that. Thanks! I don’t see how they can tell you to take 35 hours in your freshman year and then add a footnote that adds 6 MORE hours. 41 hours is kind of a lot for freshman year even WITH some AP credits.</p>
<p>I wish he’d taken the AP test. He wasn’t in AP English, but now we find out that some of his friends passed the AP test even without being in the class.</p>
<p>I really only see 16 hours that is really necessary for the first semester and 17 for the next. You can hold off on the KINE 198 & 199 till senior year…
And just take ENGL 104 over the summer. What AP credits DOES he have?</p>
<p>Yes Xcellerator, but the advisor said that since he wants to go to med school he needed to do 101/102 instead of 107. There’s a note for BME/ChemE’s in tiny print under that freshman listing saying they need 6 additional hours to 107.</p>
<p>He has lots of AP, but won’t get to use much (CalcAB (5) needs to take tho since he hasn’t had MatLab). He has Stats, Psych, USHist, Govt, Econ and HumanGeo. I guess he can cover the Core curriculum electives and that’s about it.</p>
<p>If he moves English to summer he’ll have 17 hours but that includes Calculus which he’s really had (or maybe 16 if he skips the PE - that’s a good idea hadn’t thought of that).</p>
<p>So BIOL 111, CHEM 101, CHEM 111, ENGR 111, MATH 151, & PHYS 218 does equal 18 hours w/o ENGL 104. Well, since he’s aiming for medical school, he can really take BIOL 111/112 anytime before senior year in place of the core curriculum he AP’ed out of. That way, he can take CHEM 101, CHEM 111, ENGR 111, MATH 151, PHYS 218, and ENGL 104 for only 17 hours. </p>
<p>For the 2nd semester, he could take CHEM 102, CHEM 112, ENGR 112, MATH 152, PHYS 208, and a KINE or ENGL 203 (15 or 17 hours). He can then take BIOL 111/112 his sophomore year…And why not use the Calc AB credit since he got a 5? Just go straight into MATH 152…</p>
<p>Also, he would need some clinical experience/volunteering, regular volunteering, research experience, and maybe some leadership. Good luck to him finding a hospital to volunteer in. Just a heads up, I was on a waitlist for 1 year at St. Joseph’s just to get a spot. He’ll most likely need a car too.</p>
<p>wow - that is a lot of hours for an engineering freshman. They wanted the architecture students to stay around 13 hours their freshman year, architecture takes a lot of physical time, maybe that is why…<br>
grateful for the 21 hours my freshman daughter brought along with her from high school from dual credit courses and AP test - makes for an easier freshman-sophomore year.</p>
<p>Xcellerator, are you doing engineering and hoping med school also? I wanted him to take the Math151. He’s never had MATLAB and am hoping he would do well and help his gpa. The rest of the courses seem so difficult. I will email him your response though… VERY helpful…thx.</p>
<p>klparker312, the worst part is that he has that many hours too, but they will just be electives. There are two core electives recommended for Freshman year (and very few after that). Maybe the extra hours will at least help him get some scheduling priority later on…I hope…I guess you can’t really know all this ahead of time.</p>
<p>allthisisnewtome he doesnt have history, science, english, math, core courses out of the way by these hours?
my daughter was a sophomore by then end of 1st semester.
It did help her with having priority for registration</p>
<p>He has Stats, Psych, USHist, Govt, Econ and HumanGeo credit.</p>
<p>He also has CalcAB, but I prefer (and I think his advisor will agree) that he retake that one. He got a 5, but it’s an important foundational class and they are taught to use MatLab which he hasn’t had.</p>
<p>I haven’t looked ahead enough to see how many he can use. I believe the USHistory and Govt will count. Not sure how to correlate between the list of acceptable courses for core curriculum and the AP’s yet. If you have a link for that please post it. He has NSC later this week, so we will ask them for that info. That list is daunting.</p>
<p>Glad to hear of the priority - though I read something about not being a sophomore in Engineering until you have finished the frosh requirements, so it might not help until later.</p>
<p>The stuff about the core curriculum starts on Page 14 of that PDF file.</p>
<p>The PSYC and ECON credits he may have obtained both fall under “Social and Behavioral Sciences” which he only needs 3 hours of to satisfy the core corriculum. STAT doesn’t look to be included in any of the core curriculum. The US History credits should give him 6 hours that satisfy the history requirement. The Govt will give him 3 hours of the POLS credit he needs, he will still have to take Texas Government. (POLS 207) HumanGeo looks to count for Social and Behavioral Sciences as well.</p>
<p>So your son will probably still need to satisfy the core requirements for Communications, Humanities, Visual and Performing Arts, and International and Cultural Diversity, as well as the PE requirement.</p>
<p>One piece of advice I can give is this: Even if classes are in two of the lists, they can only count as satisfying requirements in one of the catagories UNLESS it is International and Cultural Diversity. So, for example, I took RELS 303 (Near Eastern Religions) last semester which counted for 3 hours of Humanities and 3 hours of International and Cultural Diversity. I’m currently taking ENDS 101 which counts for 3 hours of Visual and Performing Arts and 3 hours of International and Cultural Diversity. So if he can find the classes, there’s no reason to take 6 extra hours to satisfy the Cultural Diversity requirement. Find classes in the International and Cultural Diversity category that also satisfy the other requirements he needs.</p>
<p>AllThisIsNewToMe - Well, I was in Biology, but switched to Biomedical Engineering at another school (the orange one). But yes, medical school is still the goal/dream for me.
I plan on taking 20 hours (research included) this upcoming fall semester. I did 18 hours last spring semester and managed 5 A’s with one B, ruining my 4.0. So it isn’t that difficult with many hours.</p>
<p>A lot of engineering students will have Calc AB/BC credit and choose to go to/take 152. So I’m sure there will be others without MATHlab experience. I’ve heard that it’s just tedious/long…not really that hard. But if you’re son feels the need to, getting an “easy” A in 151 would probably do him well since GPA is what matters most to med schools.</p>
<p>Your son should definitely accept all those AP credits except for Human Geo, which is useless. Then, your son only needs POLS 207, a fine arts/cultural diversity class, and KINE classes to finish the core curriculum.</p>
<p>Also, you should know that medical schools will not care what major your son is going to if he ends up with a low GPA. An Engineering major will not make up for a low GPA. Though if he keeps a 3.5+ with a decent MCAT, then he should be good for most schools that screen out applicants.</p>
<p>Your Aggie should think about staying over the summer and taking some of the lower division courses at Blinn. It is not expensive and much easier on the weed out courses.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the help. I hope he can come back to Houston and take the English at HCC, but Blinn is a good backup plan.</p>
<p>We are off to NSC this afternoon and he will see if the advisor agrees with his current plan tomorrow. I am NOT looking forward to the hour long tour in the 100 degree heat…but hopefully the other parts will be more pleasant.</p>
<p>Yes, Xcellerator, he knows he has to keep his gpa up to have a prayer for med school which will be tricky in ChemE. We’ll see how that goes…</p>
<p>Thanks again…I am sure I will have more questions for you nice people post-NSC.</p>
<p>Look into the December mini-mester courses at the community colleges in your area. English is usually offered and he would be done with it in 3 weeks. Just use the TCCNS matrix to make sure it will transfer.</p>
<p>Wow…that would be WONDERFUL!!! This is the most helpful forum ever.</p>
<p>At this moment he is freaking out because there are NO Physics 218 sections open except those that say “only for Physics majors”. This will throw a huge wrench into his plan. I am praying they open up some additional sections before he registers Friday afternoon. He is usually super-low-stress, but he’s pretty frazzled about all this registration stuff.</p>
<p>We just returned from NSC and they actually encouraged all of the students to keep the schedule around 13 hours the first semester. They also encouraged the students to look into the minimester or summer school at a community college for the English course. We live in the Sugar Land area and my son has friends who have done the minimester and report that it’s intense, but they could tough anything out for two weeks. Good luck @ NSC and you are smart to have looked at schedule options prior to going. Many folks did not and appeared lost and confused. You are correct about this forum . . . I have encouraged many to check it frquently. It has helped us greatly and given us heads up on things we would have never thought of. Be sure to get your ID, sports pass and computer set up done on the pre NSC day.</p>
even WITH some AP credits.</p>