Episcopal vs. Miss Porter's

Hi everyone, I have to decide between Miss Porter’s and Episcopal. Considering locations, financial situation and academics, my parents and advisor strongly encourage me to go to Episcopal, but I’m not sure which one to choose. Although rigorous academic programs of Episcopal and the proximity to DC really intrigue me, I’m afraid its college matriculation is not as good as its reputation.

Do you have any ideas about the two schools? Which one has a better college matriculation, prestige and academics? I’ll be more than pleased to get to know your thoughts.

Both schools have excellent, challenging academics and provide a great education. You can view their college matric details and history on their websites. The most obvious difference is that Episcopal is coed and Porters, of course, is all-girls. That in itself will be the biggest difference in the environment. These are great options for any girl to have. Good luck!

@jmmiyk08‌ It depends your definition of a “good” school. Let’s take a look at the graduating classes of 2013 and 2014:

  • 500 / 600 AP classes completed during senior year
  • 87%/84% attended first or second choice school
  • 26/14 received merit scholarships
  • 2013 class achieved the “trifecta,” of receiving three of the most distinguished merit scholarships, the Jefferson scholarship at the University of Virginia, and the Morehead and Robertson scholarships at the University of North Carolina.

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@jmmiyk08‌ It depends upon your definition of a “good” school. Although I think I know what you mean.

Let’s take a look at the very ambitious graduating classes of 2013 and 2014:

  • 500 / 600 AP classes completed during senior year
  • 87%/84% attended first or second choice school (more on this later)
  • 26/14 received merit scholarships
  • 2013 class achieved the “trifecta,” of receiving three of the most distinguished merit scholarships, the Jefferson scholarship at the University of Virginia, and the Morehead and Robertson scholarships at the University of North Carolina.

Excluding Int’l students, many of the students hail from Southern states (Virginia south/southwest to Texas). Even though my son is from NH, he is not unlike many of the students who prefer to attend schools in the South/Midwest/West; UVA, UNC, Duke, WF, Sewanee, Vandi, W&L, Davidson, etc. vs the famous NE schools. Why? Perhaps it is the weather, family tradition, campus atmosphere, in-state tuition, or even just plain ole fit. My son will not even consider a school (other than West Point) north of DC. I say, but look at all of these schools you are leaving off your list!

These schools are not laggards. Have you seen the admission stats needed to get into Vandi or Duke? If you are out of state, good luck getting into UVA or UNC. EHS students not only get into these schools, but they are accepted to their more selective business schools. DS’s frosh roommate’s brother attended EHS. Was accepted to U of Chicago, Yale, and UNC’s Kenan-Flager. He choose UNC. Kids do apply to HYPSM and the more selective schools and like many other students are wait listed or declined. Some are accepted. Last year, one was admitted to Stanford (Gate-Millenium) and another to Yale. This year students were accepted EA to Harvard and ND. Acceptance to any of these schools is a lottery. But you are astute to pick up on the fact that EHS’s matriculation list is not populated with some of the more famous schools. It’s not because of EHS, it’s the student’s choice to look South and West.

One of the more amazing stats, and is undervalued, is the % of students who attend their 1st or 2nd choice school. On average 85% of the graduating class at EHS attends their 1st or 2nd choice. Let that stat sink in and then realize how hard it is to achieve this success rate. I credit the CC dept. for helping the students to focus on what type of school will encourage them to continue their passion for learning and EC’s vs. checking the “ABC” prestige school box. Students are applying to schools they want to go to and have a chance of acceptance.

One last note. I like to read the Alumni newsletter. What did they do after EHS? It’s interesting to see how folks career traversed after EHS and college. They did not wander aimlessly. There are many, many EHS alumni who are quite respected in their fields. Without fail, whenever EHS highlights an single alumni, this person credits their life/career success to their experience at “The High School” vs. college. I am sure this is a common refrain from Ms. Porter’s (and others) Alumni newsletter also.

Congratulations on your choices and whatever your decision, enjoy your time at either school.

I think the tricky thing to a New England eye is that so many of the kids at Episcopal are looking for something different in a college experience–they want the large excellent public universities that offer a “big college” experience like UNC, UVA or Wlliiam and Mary. Many kids at EHS come from Southern states, so are less likely to apply to many small, New England Liberal Arts colleges that are far from their homes and feature long winters. It doesn’t mean they can’t hack it at schools you think are good–many probably didn’t apply. EHS does send a few kids to the Ivy League and to NESCAC schools every year, so if that’s the kind of college you want, Episcopal can obviously prepare you and help you get in.
Prestige is a geography question. Many in the mid-Atlantic and South would tell you Episcopal is one of the best and most prestigious boarding schools. Many in Massachusetts have heard of Miss Porter’s but not EHS. They are both excellent schools.

I think it’s more important to ask if you want to be close to D.C., do you want a single-sec school, and which school has the art/sports/electives that suit you. You can’t make a bad choice.

Definitely go EHS. I came from an all girls school from that general area, and I can tell you that all girls schools are mot for most people. I have met a bunch of kids who go to EHS and they are always super nice and outgoing. A friend of mine has a sister at Porters, who likes it there, but says that the all-girls aspect of it can get boring.

Thank you all for your replies. I’m an international student coming from an overrated country where New England colleges and boarding schools are perceived as only ‘good’ schools. Most people around me merely had information about EHS and Southern universities, and that’s why i doubted the prestige and matriculation of EHS. (I know, I was extremely uninformed and narrow sighted…:frowning: )

For last few days I had some research on both schools. Both of them are phenomenal, and It was so grateful to have such amazing options. I eventually chose EHS considering its amazing offerings and environment.

Again, I really appreciate you all for your answers. Thank you so much!

*overrated -> overrepresented! :smile:

@jmmiyk08‌ Congratulations on your decision! We just returned from yesterday’s revisit day for DD and it was very impressive. I spoke to about 15 parents of accepted students and ALL were planning to accept. The common refrain was the feeling of the campus and the opportunities provided by proximity to D.C. My daughter was so impressed with her revisit, she may cancel her revisit to the other school. I asked her to give it a couple days…