I usually stay on concierge floors where you need a key to get to the floor. I don’t believe it absolutely keeps everyone off the floor but I don’t know why it couldn’t be done for everyone to only be able to get to their floor. But if you think hotels aren’t secure you haven’t been in a hospital. Anyone could wander off the street and go to a patients room.
Agreed, @eyemamom. If someone is in the elevator they can get off on any floor someone else (with access) selects. So someone could get on the elevator after several others and pretend their floor has already been selected and then get off on one of the selected floors. But, if someone was in the elevator and had not selected any floor, and then I got on and used my key to select a floor and the person got off on my floor, I’d call the front desk as soon as I got into my room.
“But if you think hotels aren’t secure you haven’t been in a hospital. Anyone could wander off the street and go to a patients room.”
My mom was in the hospital (in Florida) for 3 weeks in January and I had to show a picture ID, identify who I was going to visit and then was issued a guest pass, which I had to attach to my clothes. Even though the security at the front desk knew who I was, my name, who I was going to see by the end of the first week, I still had to do through the same process every single time.
@emilybee, in my experience, that is very unusual. The only blocked access I’ve ever seen before has been to the ER or ICUs. D2 was in the hospital for a couple of days last weekend, and there was no impediment whatsoever to going onto her unit. That said, either DH and I were there the entire time she was hospitalized. I really didn’t think of it as a security measure, though, more of a support and advocacy thing.
I’ve wandered all over hotels- including high end ones- and hospitals- without any security issues. Vegas tends to have higher security in hotels than most places- for obvious reasons.
I think $75 million is too high, I could see a couple million. Also I didn’t really like her on Dancing with the Stars… I don’t know if the stalker has anything to do with it but she just seemed stiff and kind of faking her interest in the dancers. The first time I saw her as the replacement I told my husband that they made a huge mistake. I liked the lady before a whole lot better and I wish she would come back.
"in my experience, that is very unusual. "
Gosh, that is very surprising to me. My dad was in a different hospital in Florida a few years ago and I had to do the same thing there.
You walk in the main door (only way in besides ER entrance) and there is a big desk and everyone must wait in a line until it’s your turn to check in with security. Once you have your pass for the day - which has your name on it, room number and floor - you can walk in and out without stopping. They also change the color of the pass every day so its not good after that day.
I’m in the hospital business and I have never seen much security for people visiting patients. When my mom was at NY Presbyterian sometimes a security guard asked for an id of one person in the group going in but we were never asked who we were seeing. I walked all the way into the icu without a single soul asking me who I was there to see.
When I’ve visited people in hospitals there is very little, if any security. The ER and ICU have guards, but not the rest of the hospital as I recall.
Maybe it’s only in Florida. When it was my sister and me we both had to check in, show id’s and get a guest pass.
Hotels in Mexico have guards armed with firearms; it makes sense to do so there. It is perfectly reasonable for hotels in Vegas to have a guard or two… Lots of homeless, lots of drunks, lots of solicitors wander around the Strip… Would it be reasonable to have a guard by the elevator at every run of the mill Courtyard? Judge Learned Hand would have likely done some math and said “nope.”
Would a keyed elevator have deterred the perp? Even with a keyed elevator, a determined criminal can always wait for someone to get in the elevator, step in and casually ask to push the desired floor button.
Hotels in Europe have a simple peephole cover… mounted on the inside. Low tech beats high tech all the time, like a bandaid over your computer camera. One does not need to do any work to take a peek inside your room - google a peephole reverser. Hotels in the US rarely come equipped with this feature (I mean a peephole cover) so it was not unreasonable to not have it, but things might change.
Sorry, I don’t think whether a person is “liked” on a tv show like Dancing with the Stars should have any bearing on damages owed by Marriott and the stalker.
Since there has to be stairwells for use in case of fire, then how can they really control who can get to various floors??
Some stairwells only open at the bottom floor, from the floor you’re on. In other words, if you’re on the 12th floor and get into the stairwell, all the doors are locked and you can only open the door to the lobby. It can be a long walk. That’s what happened at my dad’s office building–his office was 15th floor and you could only get to the lobby.
It is for security not letting you enter another’s floor if you aren’t authorized. Kind of defeats the purpose tho, if you can get to any floor via elevator.
I’ve seen that in Florida hospitals too.
I live in Florida, too, and this has been common practice at our local hospital for at least 10 years or so. You have to present your ID and get your photo taken. It’s printed onto a gummed label that you have to wear at all times while inside the hospital.
And the other day I went to City Hall for something and was surprised to see that they had a security desk there, too. I had to present an ID and go through a metal detector. I thought it was overkill.
High end Vegas hotels try to keep the hookers down to a minimum. Not always as successful as they’d like, especially if “invited”. Of course other reasons to keep the non-guests off the room floors, but that is one. We saw the guards at the higher end hotels (Wynn, etc) but not at some of the “lesser ones” on the strip.
I thought the same thing @HImom
Taking potshots at a victim is wrong in every way.
Our State Dept of Health has security because some mental health patients were roaming admin offices, which made staff uncomfortable. You have to sign in and present ID or can’t go to any of the offices. They don’t look too closely tho–my id as volunteer has been expired years ago, but I’m still waved in. Shhhh 