@oldfort I am allergic to dogs and cats. Dander I guess. On a flight last year, while I sat in the exit aisle the FA moved a women and her dog to the row behind me. I told the FA I was alergic and she told me it was on me to inform the airline that I could not sit near cats and dogs. It ended up OK, but I basically found out, I am not the one they will try will worry about. I will be the one asked to leave the flight.
I guess if someone has an emotional support squirrel, the emotional support moose wonât be far away.
And in that case I would agree with Boris and Natasha-âkeel moose and squirrel.â
You are right. I have a relative who is a flight attendant on one of the regional airlines. If someone has a peanut allergy, they can announce it, but no one has to put away their peanut item.
BTW, the flight attendants dislike ESAs in the cabins. No surprise there!
My sister works for American. She had to deal with a woman who brought a rat onboard. She said she wouldnât have gotten caught but she was in the bulkhead so the flight attendant had to help her get the bag in the overhead. The flight attendant saw the cage and asked what it was. The door had already closed so they had to open it back up and remove her from the plane. She said the woman was really rude and said she was at a local military base going home for the holidays and could t leave it alone. And she asked them what she was supposed to do. My sister said the rule of thumb is the animal needs to have had vaccines to fly.
SC is looking proposed bill that would make it a crime to falsely claim animal is service animal if not properly trained.
The problem is the housing/air travel rules for ESA are federal, and those will override any South Carolina law. Florida enforces the differences between service (trained) animals and ESA. Service animals are welcomed everywhere (also federal law) but ESA are only allowed in permanent housing, not hotels, dorms (although some colleges allow them, they do not have to by law). They are not allowed in grocery stores or restaurants.
Ha. Tell that to Publix. Their signs say they only allow service animals, but their employees are afraid to enforce it. My Publix looks like a PetSmart sometimes. :o3
Paging @HImom!
Are they kidding?!
Argh! Iâm not eating in those restaurants, for sure! There are already way too many dogs and other animals in too many indoor spaces. Sheesh!
Sure wish our legislators would work on important issues, like our growing homeless population instead of this one which as I see it is highly controversial and frankly unsanitary.
I would write to the lawmakers asking if they lost their marbles!! I love dogs, but they do NOT belong in restaurants. Period.
Yes, I SO agree on housing rules(post 898). It used to be very clear that service animals did not count as pets, and Iâm ok with that. But now, esaâs are thrown in the mix and it isnât as clear on them, if they are permitted, and exactly what documentation is required.
A note from the family doctor that "Johnnyâs dog (or cat) or (hamster) or (ferret) helps keep him calm just isnât enough- and it shouldnât be in my opinion.
Not long ago, I had a potential renter family with 2 dogs try to pass off their animals as ESAâs. âBut they had a note!â they told me. I asked if the nature of the disability required the help of 2 dogs, and if thatâs what the note said. They asked, âdisability?â which was a big tip-off. Then they said the note provided for one dog. So I asked âthen why are you trying to get 2 dogs in my home?â They hung up on me.
Fortunately the Missouri Legislature has addressed this important issue for the State House.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/fur-flies-over-new-no-dog-rule-in-the-missouri/article_8bd39407-2e4a-5d64-8589-b30c41fa5574.html
JEFFERSON CITY ⢠Missouri House officials have largely forbidden state representatives and staff from bringing animals to work, saying in a revised policy handbook that pets are antithetical to maintaining âa professional and respectful work environment free from unnecessary distractions or impediments.â
At least two pet owner-legislators are objecting.
A few years ago I was in an IKEA in south Florida with a friend and our young kids. We went to get a snack at the cafeteria area and while we were eating we saw a lady with a stroller. It was a normal stroller and had a bar with toys hanging down and one of those mesh covers on top. As she got closer we saw she was pushing around a monkey! We heard the ladies at the cash register saying that she told them it was a service animal.
Our flight home over Christmas got delayed for an hour because of a family with a dog. First they had a problem with another family who was allergic. I saw that mom go to the counter before we left asking to make sure they were not sitting near any dogs and they said she was right in front of one. They moved them but when they got on the plane they were behind a second dog! Then one of the dog families would not take their dog off of the seat. They kept telling them it had to be on the ground but they would not move it for some reason. They finally had to take the dad off the plane to talk to security (I was in the front row so saw what was happening but could not hear) - they eventually let him back on and we took off, not sure what happened though.
I was in a hotel restaurant with friends for a dog show. It was for a small breed that I and my friends have trained to sit under our chairs during meals. For some reason this hotel had a âno dogs on the floorâ policy. So we needed a table for eight to accommodate our party of four. More than half of the tables had dogs in chairs. Ha! It must have been a safety issue that the servers were afraid they would trip on a tail.
Dogs donât belong in hotel restaurants. Or any restaurant.
I assume when people make these types of comments, they are referring to ESAs? Because actual service animals are legally entitled to be in restaurants. Surely people wouldnât want to exclude blind people or other similarly debilitated individuals from eating in restaurants.
ESAs are currently not legally entitled to enter restaurants. I donât know why restaurants and grocery stores, etc. seem to think their hands are tied with regard to these animals. They certainly are not.
@Nrdsb4 â Yes, ESAs. Iâm not separating a blind person from their certified service dog.
But pets donât belong in a restaurant whether a dog show or not. Neither under the chair nor on a seat.
No ESAs, no pets. Only service animals.
And I donât care how great the pet is trained. I donât know why any company would allow them unless they are self contained in a box⌠The shedding alone causes problems for good clean up.
Just last week, we saw a dog doing a major dump in the electrical isle at the local HD. The embarrassed owner tried to clean up⌠hard to do when all you have is a green baggie! OMG, the stench was wafting through the air reaching the isles on the back side of the store.
Clean up on aisle 14! And that lady just lost her 10% discountâŚ
Just wonderingâdid she not leave pooch at home because she wouldnât be back home to take him out?