<p>I definitely agree with a lot of the previous posters.</p>
<p>To incoming students thinking about joining a fraternity, don’t take the advice of someone who’s clearly in FIJI or Delta Chi when considering what fraternity to join. Go to every fraternity with an open mind and you’ll find a fraternity that suits you.</p>
<p>Also, ranking simply by lower or upper tier completely oversimplifies the entire fraternity system.</p>
<p>And FIJI certainly cannot be considered an upper tier house. Last year, they handed out over 100 bids in order to get their class of 25 or so. Doesn’t sound like upper tier to me.</p>
<p>i think fiji actually handed out something like 30 bids. regardless, sae is still the best house hands down</p>
<p>Like I said before, some of my best friends are in FIJI, I didn’t accept a bid from them because I was a better fit for another house. If you want to PM me I’ll tell you which one. This year they gave out 34 bids and got a 29 person pledge class. The year before they gave out 29 bids and got a 23 person pledge class. Jamison215, o house on campus would ever give out 100 bids. You should really get your facts straight. Sigma Pi had a 27 person pledge class last year but no one is criticizing them for taking too many guys and they were considered a “top” house. So clearly there isn’t always a connection between quality and quantity.</p>
<p>Houses such as FIJI, Delta Chi, Chi Phi, PIKE, TEP, are all undoubtedly on the rise. With the loss of Sigma Pi last year and now the loss of Psi U this year people who would likely join those “top” houses are going to be looking at the houses I first mentioned. SAE, Sigma Phi, ATO, Sigma Phi can only take so many “good” kids.</p>
<p>there isn’t a connection between quality and quantity…though, with FIJI i agree with Jabber that there is…id love to know what fraternity you are in quick</p>
<p>You can send me a PM. But only if you tell me what house you’re in too.</p>
<p>Also, I’m pretty sure FIJI will have a smaller pledge class next year, probably 15-18 I’m guessing. SAE had a 24 person pledge class this year, I would say about 18 out of those 24 were actually good bids.</p>
<p>psi u got kicked off? WHAAAT how?!?</p>
<p>im not sure but it has to do with their alumni. you’ll here more info im sure once school is back in august.</p>
<p>psh nvrmd…i think i like the anonymity of CC</p>
<p>I very much disagree with the upper or lower tier ranking system b/c I believe many are middle that you listed at extremes. He is also definitely in Fiji b/c fiji is def not upper tier and I didn’t even go back after getting a contact b/c I didn’t like them (I saw too many dorky kids…sry…I donno y online they have such a good rep b/c all my friends think they have a good amount of dorks). I personally feel they are feeding off their legacy of being good (they used to be upper tier but then got reorganized b/c of hazing as far as I know. Since they are no longer an upper tier house that is what my theory is [the feeding off the past theory]). ps: They aren’t lower…just def not upper. </p>
<p>Since Delta Chi is somehow said to be upper tier OP could also be in it. One or the other</p>
<p>The author of this paper wrote of his experience in the aforementioned hazing incident which happened in 2001. The paper was written in 2003… he disguised the fraternity as fictitious “Alpha Gam” but it was widely known as Fiji. My cousin went to Cornell then, and he said it was known as a sketchy fraternity then as well. <a href=“http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/smithers/docs/hazed_and_confused.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/smithers/docs/hazed_and_confused.pdf</a>
It is also referred to in this Cornell Sun article [Effects</a> of Hazing Last Long After Pledging Process | The Cornell Daily Sun](<a href=“http://cornellsun.com/node/20926]Effects”>http://cornellsun.com/node/20926)
I know it’s different today, but I think they are overcompensating and just trying too, too hard to appear “cool” on these websites… it’s quite transparent.
Cornell has taken a hard stance against hazing now…</p>
<p>just last year some latino frat got shut down b/c of hazing…</p>
<p>props to my fellow students who took a stand against these SCUM</p>
<p>Ya I read the whole report last year…it was crazy. Ps: yes I also believe they overcompensate. When juicycampus was popular there were many posts about fiji (especially) and delta chi that u could tell were obviously posted by members trying to up their rep.</p>
<p>jeez why is everyone being so hard on fiji? fiji is a great house, on par with many of the other houses that the OP listed as “upper”. Now if the OP broke down the tiers a bit more, then things would change, for many of the houses listed. Fiji has a bunch of great guys, and they throw awesome parties. I think people’s views on different houses all depends on who they meet in the house. I’ve met some guys in some of the houses considered “the best of the best”, but I personally think they are mediocre or pretentious etc.</p>
<p>I do agree with the assertion that u meet different tiers of ppl within houses. I think the root of the issue is making a polarized rank that places frats as only either upper or lower.</p>
<p>in my opinion fiji is a good house and is only going to get better. they had a really good pledge class and got some of the top freshmen. this isn’t to say that so-called “top hoouses” like sigma phi, SAE, Psi U, Sigma Chi, DU, didn’t get top freshmen. They did of course but houses like fiji and delta chi did as well. Even as a person who is in neither house I can truthfully say this.</p>
<p>I agree that there are nice guys at Fiji and at mostly every house (and idiots at mostly every house too) - but to flagrantly come up with a random ranking which is so common among Fiji posters on this board and others is ridiculous and prompted me to post. I’ll give you an analogy - it’s as if I came on to this board and said: Top Tier Schools: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Dartmouth, Penn, Columbia, Brown, Indiana, Stanford, MIT and Duke - and then list all of the other schools as Bottom Tier. To those of you who know colleges, obviously Indiana stands out - although it is a fine school with a top business program - it still doesn’t belong in “top tier” universities. It just bothers me when people come onto these boards with gross overstatements and lies to push interest towards their own houses. Where did the OP go anyway? Just posted and disappeared, or maybe changed his screen name again :p</p>
<p>^that’s kind of what happened to the sororities before rush week. makes you think how many would have pledged “lower” sororities before knowing their “ranking” and “reputation” on campus</p>
<p>I know many people in fraternities and in my opinion the people in the “top” fraternities are not cool at all but are arrogant d0uches. The people in the “lower” houses tend to be chill and cool to hang out with. I also know many who agree with me. So what makes the “top” houses so good?</p>
<p>well, in the end, both guys and girls should choose a house based on their comfort level rather than superficial rankings. the only impact these so-called ‘tiers’ have is on who a house mixes with, which is ironic because mixers are terrible terrible places to make meaningful connections with the opposite sex and ive seen that mixing with houses ranked as ‘lower’ tier are usually more fun because the guys arent as pompous.
anyways, in any given sorority girls date guys from a variety of different houses. my house is pretty ‘middle tier’ but girls from my house are or have been involved with guys from frats like SAE and Sigma Phi to frats like Llenroc and Zeta Psi. </p>
<p>none of this matters.</p>
<p>PuzzleChampion - what sorority are you in?
Thingy1337 - Zeta Psi is not cool…no matter what spin you put on it.</p>