Everything you need to know about Common Core — Ravitch

<p>I am interested to hear what the more knowledgeable folks on CC think about this article?
I see both sides of the argument. Will this help or hurt an already ineffective education system?
Are there education models in other countries that work best?</p>

<p>[Everything</a> you need to know about Common Core ? Ravitch](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/01/18/everything-you-need-to-know-about-common-core-ravitch/]Everything”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/01/18/everything-you-need-to-know-about-common-core-ravitch/)</p>

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<p>Considering that most students were not at the NAEP “proficient” level, is it any surprise that they fail tests were the passing bar is at the NAEP “proficient” level?</p>

<p>Perhaps her argument might be better if she made a better case that the NAEP “proficient” standard were unreasonably high, because if the NAEP “proficient” standard is considered a realistic goal to have students achieve to, then complaining about tests showing many students failing to meet that standard is like shooting the messenger.</p>

<p>The NAEP standards for “basic”, “proficient”, and “advanced” in reading, writing, and math are shown here:
[NAEP</a> - Reading Achievement Levels by Grade](<a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/reading/achieveall.asp]NAEP”>NAEP Nations Report Card - The NAEP Reading Achievement Levels by Grade)
[NAEP</a> Writing - Achievement Level Details](<a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/writing/achieveall.asp]NAEP”>NAEP Writing - Achievement Level Details)
[NAEP</a> - Mathematics Achievement Levels by Grade](<a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/mathematics/achieveall.asp]NAEP”>NAEP - NAEP Mathematics Achievement Levels by Grade)</p>

<p>This article spells it out. This woman knows what she is talking about. US schools have not been failing. That is the propaganda that the powers want everyone to believe.</p>

<p>I am a teacher and I do not know any other teacher that would not agree, wholeheartedly with this article.</p>

<p>Schools are OBSESSED with testing. They are OBSESSED with data. What they are no longer concerned with is CHILDREN. I am living it and it is worse this year than it has ever been.</p>

<p>Parents need to pay attention. Taxpayers need to pay attention. There will a be a hefty price to pay if we don’t.</p>

<p>When I was in school, back in the dark ages, there was certainly not much emphasis on keeping kids in school, educating minority and poor students, etc. When my father-in-law arrived, at age 10, in this country, the school system wouldn’t allow him to go into 4th or 5th grade until he mastered English and so they put him in the youngest class. That doesn’t happen now. The world has changed and much of the changes are for the good.</p>

<p>What is missing is a formula that figures out how to educate the kids who bounce around from school to school, don’t have enough food at home, have parents who are indifferent at best (and this one crosses socio-economic barriers) and so many more societal ills. Charter schools that look promising from the outside (KIPP, for example) have the advantage of having a student population whose parents selectively enroll them. </p>

<p>My children have tremendous advantages starting with educated parents who can make school decisions for them, books, proper nutrition, medical care, enrichment opportunities that support their passions, tutoring if needed, etc. </p>

<p>What we haven’t figured out is how to educate children who aren’t like mine (or like ours).</p>

<p>In other words…parenting matters. </p>

<p>I really don’t see any way around this and blaming schools or teachers for things that happen or do not happen after school is not likely to amount to much, imho. Our middle school is out a t 1:45. That’s a lot of time that kids are not in school. Plus weekends and holidays.</p>

<p>Brilliant speech. And Diane Ravitch is no left-wing ideologue. I recall reading a book of hers on textbooks, where she skewered requirements that all “old” people be shown to be smiling and physically vigorous, and that illustrations must contain certain proportions of gender and race, even if inaccurate, and so forth,.</p>

<p>Here is an interesting editorial: [Why</a> I want to give up teaching: Common Core, Smarter Balance - Courant.com](<a href=“http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/hc-op-natale-teacher-ready-to-quit-over-common-cor-20140117,0,6264603.story]Why”>http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/hc-op-natale-teacher-ready-to-quit-over-common-cor-20140117,0,6264603.story)</p>

<p>here is a funny one relating to common core
<a href=“http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/21/someone-struck-back-at-missouris-common-core-tin-foil-amendment-in-the-best-way/”>http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/21/someone-struck-back-at-missouris-common-core-tin-foil-amendment-in-the-best-way/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Is it really just propaganda when:</p>

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<li>A large percentage of incoming college frosh need to take remedial English and/or math courses.</li>
<li>Many people believe that one needs to take AP courses before taking SAT subject tests, which theoretically test regular (non-AP) high school level course material.</li>
<li>Standardized tests exist in the first place, and continue to be used, because colleges do not trust the value of high school course work and grades alone, implicitly suspecting high schools of watering down course work or having excessive grade inflation.</li>
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<p>(Of course, whether and how much the Common Core helps is another matter entirely.)</p>

<p>Sure, there is way too much standardized testing, and this is adding to it, not rationalizing it. But that’s against a background of way too little effectiveness evaluation going on without mandates. The status quo ante isn’t an option.</p>

<p>The real question is how to improve the education of students who absolutely are not being educated to anyone’s satisfaction now. I find it completely disingenuous on Ravitch’s part to suggest that all of the improvements should come from within teachers’ professional organizations, because they have been failing miserably at this for my entire lifetime. It’s not testing and the Common Core that have pushed the Philadelphia schools to the point of collapse. They have been at the point of collapse for all but the favored few for a long time, and the difference now is that we have to notice it more. (I can also testify from personal observation that Philadelphia offers a completely first-rate public education to students, including many poor and minority students, who want it and who have the capacity to receive it, although it doesn’t necessarily get all of such students. If they are poor and their parents are disconnected, they need some luck.) That doesn’t mean the Common Core is good, but it means that Ravitch’s alternatives are discredited.</p>

<p>Ravitch also complains about replacing expensive teachers with cheap technology. Let’s assume for the moment that it may be possible to achieve the same or better educational results with $x of teaching or $(x-1) of technology. What possible (rational) argument is there for not going with the technology? Was it a bad decision to replace lamplighters with electric streetlights and light sensors or systemwide switches? Technology is not a silver bullet for education, and no one is talking about replacing teachers wholesale with robots, but technology has radically improved productivity in almost every industry, and that’s happening in education, too.</p>

<p>She is right to attack simplistic efforts to evaluate teachers based on test scores relative to averages, but it’s something of a straw man. Only politicians (only really stupid politicians) think that way. Or people with no alternative. Teachers should be evaluated based on whether the children actually in their classes are learning something, based on where they started and what tools they bring to the classroom. To do that, however, we need really granular data – we need student-specific data. And as soon as you start talking about that, many of the same people attacking the Common Core go absolutely ape about privacy.</p>

<p>Here’s a lovely example of how all of this stuff plays out in real life. A charter here that was founded to provide a stable school environment to kids in the foster care system is losing its charter, ostensibly because its test scores and attendance are so abysmal. And its test scores and attendance are abysmal, unless you compare them to the test scores and attendance of foster-care kids in the neighborhood schools to which they are otherwise assigned, in which case this charter looks amazing, a huge improvement. But . . . the teacher’s union and its allies desperately want charter scalps, and low-test charters are great targets. The school authorities want to show that they will get tough with underperforming charters, and not only are low-test charters easy targets, but kids without parents are kids who are not likely to be a political problem. And the charter school isn’t actually contesting the loss of its charter, because its operator has concluded that it can’t possibly do an adequate job in absolute, not relative, terms educating this ultra-high-risk population for the money available, and unlike KIPP or Harlem Children’s Zone it didn’t successfully tap into some motherlode of philanthropic dollars.</p>

<p>So the buck and the bucks are being passed back to the School District, which will bury the problem by diffusing it among dozens of failing neighborhood schools. The foster kids, who were not being educated well, will be educated worse, or often not at all, and no one will particularly notice. And stupid overuse of testing has everything and nothing to do with it.</p>

<p>Ravitch has quoted a long time teacher who writes a blog about CCSS and testing, etc… It’s very good, but I don’t know if the link qualifies as a “personal” blog or not. You have to love the name “Curmudgucation”</p>

<p>We should all pay attention in that the creator of much of common core is the head of college board and he is re-writing the SAT. Not sure how much longer the current version will be used; hopefully for another year or so(my youngest is a sophmore)…</p>