Expectations for college kid home for summer

<p>I too prefer the kids hanging out at our place. However, when there are newcomers to the group it is debatable. How strong is your D about standing up to peers. My D did not hesitate to ask people to please leave if they were not following the rules. But her circle was pretty tight, and involved about 8 girls and 3 boys.</p>

<p>Are your D’s friends driving themselves home at 3:00 a.m.? Just a few weeks ago, a kid fell asleep at the wheel on a 20 minute drive home at 2:00 a.m. and drove into a tree. Broke his arm and leg.</p>

<p>2 years ago, a ‘new’ boy showed up at our door, saying that one of S’s friends invited him to a party at our house. It was a sleepover. I was very pleasant to the mom (who was very pushy at my door!!), and firmly told her that my S had reached the max. # that we allowed at a sleepover, but her S could come in until 11:00 p.m. She was offended and took him home.</p>

<p>When D, and now S, turned 18, we relaxed stuff like curfews, driving distances, time spent with friends etc., like to practically no limits. But we also defined our expectations of them as adults, and set up ‘rules to live by’ that everyone found acceptable.</p>

<p>Our rules for senior summer are not laxer than future summers; I guess what I was trying to say is we were a lot more flexible during that senior summer, if they came up to us to discuss stretching rules in advance, or after the fact told us something silly that they did, there was no freaking out on our part. They are also trying to see how far they can go :)</p>

<p>All we ask if they aren’t going to be home one night, a quick call to let us know. </p>

<p>We’ve learned to close the kids doors, it reduces stress levels. </p>

<p>We’re moving one to the midwest for med school this summer. I can’t get too angry at what they do at home, because before long, I will be very much missing what they do at home.</p>

<p>Like JHS, we’re pretty much aligned with Blucroo. </p>

<p>Our son has just graduated h.s. but has spent the last 6 summers watching the older two sibs every summer. This gives him powerful points to make, every time he wants anything. Fortunately, when they gather or chat inline (I know they do) before he approaches us with any new point to stretch us, the older sibs are the first to shoot him down, since they don’t want him to have any more privileges than they had. The older 2 complain to us that he’s spoiled b/c he can do things they couldn’t, but they are just shocked he’d even ask for stuff they never dreamed of at his age. When we tell them we kept to the same structure, they are greatly relieved. Maybe he’s bragging that he’s getting away with stuff behind our backs, but these are things that keep siblings close! We knew since an early age that this youngest would push the envelope furthest and have always kept the closest eye of all on him. They all have their quirks, too: eldest is very conservative about family and social mores, but sloppy at times; the middle is absent-minded about possessions but scrupulous about everyone’s feelings; the youngest is light-as-a-breeze about life. None of them pick up bathroom towels in their shared bathroom, but they also don’t argue with each other about it, which suits me fine. </p>

<p>This is a special summer and you can identify it as such.</p>

<p>For h.s. son, we’ve lightened up on some rules but have to hold carefully to everything related to friends over, since his g.f. is a h.s. junior with stern/suspicious parents, so we don’t want any problems for her or from them. He skipped 11th grade so has both jr. and sr. friends. Two of his senior male college-bound friends have considerable leisure and call at midnight, ready to pick him up and cruise around. His limited license disallows driving after 9 p.m. The other 2 boys drive well and there’s old relationships here, so I find them trustworthy and don’t object. I’d feel entirely differently about new friends but I notice he’s not into making new friends, just wants to get to college now and enjoy being with tried-and-trusty friends this summer. The girls like to gather in groups and watch movies; he goes there or they all come here. </p>

<p>Here’s what we require: </p>

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<li><p>Communication of whereabouts. It’s not a matter of curfew, but knowing where he is in case of emergency. We point out that it’s what Dad and Mom do for each other; we don’t go anywhere without the other knowing where we are. Put like that, it’s expressed as adult behavior, not a baby curfew. </p></li>
<li><p>Pickup in the common rooms.</p></li>
<li><p>Family grocery shopping (major and minor) with a list – all 3 love this responsibility, and I let them add a treat without fussing if it was frivolous.</p></li>
<li><p>Own laundry. If someone else’s is blocking the way, fold it for them or carry it in baskets to their rooms.</p></li>
<li><p>Synagogue attendance: h.s. senior: every other week with us; g.f. (not Jewish) can come along which she enjoys and her parents permit. college kids: no requirement, but they end up going voluntarily around once in 3 weeks. All: required presence at Sabbath meal, non-negotiatiable; friends always welcome. </p></li>
<li><p>Weekday dinners, just let us know what to expect an hour before meal so I can stretch meals to include friends. (I feel anything to encourage friends under our roof is a good thing; even if it costs me, I’ll benefit in bigger ways.) </p></li>
<li><p>Our deal is: whoever cooks never cleans up. So usually I cook but this gives me all the leverage I need to direct cleanup following. I do leftover put-aways if they’re tricky; otherwise I walk away from the table. Knowing this gives me more energy to cook happily. Friends at dinner are astonished at first, but they soon get with the program. H used to cook but he hardly does anymore, preferring cleanup and my cooking. When college sibs are home, they try to game this old rule, with one helping me chop salad, then declaring, “I cooked, so I don’t have to clean,” and the others disagree. It never ends. </p></li>
<li><p>Visiting friends: very tricky. In college, their college friends from around the nation came to visit, which I love. They always did whatever was asked of them re: kitchenwork, but sleeping arrangements were of issue. I especially never wanted the youngest to use this as leverage to say he could have his h.s. girlfriend in his room with a closed door in the daytime, etc. So I required everyone, including my own kids, to have no coed sleeping at home regardless of what they (or friends) do on campus. It’s my/their home but there’s a “sense of the house” to respect. S objected on behalf of one visiting college g.f. so I handed him a tent for the backyard if they didn’t like 2 separate bedrooms; they broke up weeks later. Another visiting college b.f. didn’t object but said his Mom warned him not to stay together here because she assumed “a sense of the house.” He’s a keeper after 3 years…</p></li>
<li><p>Right now the big thing is making sure h.s. son keeps his door wide open when g.f. visits, since they spend half their time there. We also are very careful to remind his jr. year friends to call home, etc. b/c they all have curfews. It’s easy to get blithe about requirements as college approaches; must keep in mind some could be younger friends still in complete h.s. mode at home.</p></li>
<li><p>No substances. None.</p></li>
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<p>9, Summer job. Over the years, they’ve all found work. Two summers, we were in transition with a major family move and a hospitalization that involved months. So,
for those summers, we defined “job” as helping the family very completely, every meal and to the last chore, which was worth more to us than teen wages. These weren’t normal chores and they felt part of something very large and important, dignified.</p>

<p>Keeping track of kids is much easier if you have fewer cars than drivers. Getting access to a car requires advance planning, and the advance planning involves telling other people where you plan to go, when you will be going there, and when you plan to come back. We didn’t set up this situation deliberately, but it has worked out great. I pretty much always know what my kids are doing when they’re home, and they don’t feel that they’re being treated like children. (I have to tell them when I need the car, too.)</p>

<p>Of course, eventually they don’t come home, except for brief visits. My son, who just finished his third year of college, is spending the summer elsewhere for the first time. It is weird not having him here.</p>

<p>Friends are great; however, remember that the parental units actually sleep at night, so keep the noise down and PLEASE do not come and go by the door directly beneath our bed.</p>

<p>My table is always open. But know that, if you show up with a couple of extra dinner guests, the meal may be an odd one as I cobble together enough food! No one ever minds.</p>

<p>Let me know if you will not be home for dinner.</p>

<p>No wet towels on on any floor.</p>

<p>Cheerfully help out when politely asked. Corollary: the one doing the asking should either ask far enough in advance to be reasonable, or be willing to accommodate already-made plans.</p>

<p>Keep us in the loop about your comings, goings, and general whereabouts.</p>