Once more… where do you think you’ll get these loans from?
PSU is so much better. If costs were reversed I would still pick PSU @Blossom is correct. In New York the CUNY system is a great option.
“You want to see the strivers? They are at Baruch, at Fordham with merit, at Macauley Honors, Hunter, Queens.”
As an extremely competitive student at a school with a lowish graduation rate, I fundamentally disagree with your premise. And I’m offended by it.
This student can’t afford Pace. It’s $28,000 a year vs $16,000 for Penn State.
Plus he or she wants to go to PA school after undergrad…and that will be costly as well.
There are smart and capable students at all colleges. The issue here is…the cost for Pace is $12,000 more per year than Penn State, and all of these costs will need to be funded with loans.
I don’t hear any compleling reason for Pace.
@CourtneyThurston your situation is a little different…your cost to attend your college is fully funded. This student doesn’t have that going for him or her. Her “dream school” has the potential to create a financial nightmare.
@thumper1 Sure. And in my post, I said Pace isn’t worth it.
I just fundamentally object to judging an entire student body by one graduation statistic. Because frankly, that is bs.
Courtney, have you ever been to Pace?
if not, withhold your snark. It is NOTHING like ERAU. Nothing. It is a private college surrounded by fine, cheaper, public colleges and universities. Living at home and using public transportation a kid in the region around Pace could commute to a college which costs less and has a better reputation.
That’s all I’m saying. How many other colleges are accessible via public transportation in Daytona Beach?
I’ve recruited from Pace. My POV is not based on one statistic- but that statistic is meaningful in the context of the type of kid (and parents) who prefer to pay for Pace vs. one of the many less expensive options in the area.
And yes- the strivers are at Macauley. Why does that offend you? It is a public honors college which is the brass ring for first generation students in the NY metro area.
^it’s not, depending on what the population is: hard-working, less-well prepared students or students who have to work part time vs. well-off kids who just never bothered to learn or study while in High School?
I’m guessing you’re attending the former. Pace is the latter.
Blossom has made it clear that the graduation rate is not her only criteria for judging Pace.
For the OP, what make Pace your dream school and is it worth the price?
Are the academics better?
Are the opportunities for research better?
Are you in a honors program that makes Pace better?
Is there a specialty in your major that is only offered at Pace?
Is the location the driving force?
What is the unique character of Pace that attracts you?
Sometime it is just the feeling you get. However when the cost are this high you need to try to quantify what makes the difference to see if it is worth it to you.
26 was responding to 24 'that is bs '... Not to Blossom who eloquently developed the point I was making to Courtney.
This thread reminds me of the ones by @student@ail.com 
I hire PA’s in CA…It will not matter as far as a job is concerned.
Unless you plan on trying to get into medical school I would just go as debt free as possible.
If you’re going to a 90k program for grad school… go for the cheaper option always.
No one’s saying Pace is a bad school, but if you have a school that’s just as good and half the price, I wouldn’t see why you would go there.
Thanks for all the replys Ive decided to go to Penn state to save some money so that for grad i can go to pace’s or another fancy pa program
@noname87 there are strivers at every college though obviously. Its not like pace is a free for all, its a private school on the middle of the one of the busiest cities. They get a crazy amount of applications and even have an honors program. So whats your point…? There are still great schools in the city that not baruch,columbia,etc.
My point was that when students are making this type of high cost decision that they need to look subjectively at all the factors that are important to them when comparing schools and then decide what it is worth to them.
Of course there are great schools in the city. Every school can be a great school for the right student. The trick is finding the right school at a price that you can afford that will allow you to pursue your dream after college without crushing debt.
Life update: Im extremely late but like i said yes im going to penn state now , and hopefully pace for pa school/ grad school. As a back up plan (since i always have back ups,) if for whatever reason i dont like psu my brother has been thinking of moving to manhattan or brooklyn (super close to pace) soon so i would transfer then live with him and commute. Thanks again for all the help everyone!
@BTMSC98 wouldnt it be still alot if not more with med school? Like after 8 years it’d be like 500k in debt
I hope you like Penn State, but since it sounds like you really want to be in the city, did you consider Hunter or City College?