extremely dire special circumstance...seeking advice

<p>hey guys im an incoming senior at a very top tier school or should i say would have been. i have been suspended for assault for two years..i would like to transfer immediately so that i can continue my education; however, my grades are fairly subpar only a 2.9</p>

<p>i am an econ major...i would prefer to go to a legitimate school, what are your suggestions? i do not mind going to a community college for a year and repeating courses so that i make myself more competitive.</p>

<p>i am willing to do things over or do whatever so that i can transfer into a legit school. thanks a lot in advance.</p>

<p>please spare me the lectures on assault, you would find that private institutions have a very ambiguous judicial system that amounts to nothing more than a kangaroo court. no criminal charges were ever filed despite an 'investigation'..the student just happens to be the child of an administrator.</p>

<p>First of all community college will be the BIGGEST mistake of your life. It won't prepare you. It is like grade 13 and 14. You waste two years of your life taking bs gen Ed classes. Then if you want to go somewhere good, your ending up at your state college. That is really the primary purpose of community college. It's for kids who messed around in hs and didn't take the correct classes. Some state schools are the same price as a community college now almost. Community college is good for people that want to be nurses aids and technicians etc.</p>

<p>Don't expect to get into Harvard from a community college. Top tier schools like, very top tier take limited limited transfer applicants, I'm talking about 20 to 30 per year. </p>

<p>Your best bet is to go to your state school if you can. Do extremely well, if possible try to transfer to top tier.</p>

<p>Or do really well, go top tier for graduate school.</p>

<p>i realize community college isnt exactly my cup of tea...but im willing to go and 'redo' things so that i can make myself more competitive. im from california and wouldnt mind uc berkeley or ucla. </p>

<p>i just wanted to know what i could do to make myself more competitive i.e retaking classes at a community college...because i definitely do not want to go to a cal state school or like uc riverside when last year i was at columbia...</p>

<p>i guess my question is how does the UC system and private schools for that matter look at classes retaken when im trying to transfer? or ANY school for that matter</p>

<p>does high school stuff matter at all?
i scored a 2350 on my sats had 7 aps averaged a 4 with a cumulative uw high school gpa of 3.7...unfortunately i let things go in college.</p>

<p>I see several options for you (among others):</p>

<p>Ask your current university what you need to do in order to be able to be re-admitted at some time in the future. Then comply absolutely to the letter of that instruction, return for your senior year, and graduate.</p>

<p>Do some research on colleges and universities that admit senior transfers. A fair number of second and third tier institutions do. Many institutions that have extensive distance ed. programs do. You might be able to be admitted for second quarter or second semester and graduate less than 12 months from now. One that I know of is UMUC</a> - Homepage</p>

<p>Pick up the phone and call the UC or Cal State closest to your home, and discuss your individual situation with an admissions counselor. I understand that some of them have limits on the number of credits a student can have earned before being admitted. Three years of academic credit may already be too much, and additional coursework from a CCC will almost certainly put you over any limits.</p>

<p>Anywhere that you are going to transfer to will ask for a letter from your current/former institution that states that you are "in good standing". You need to find out whether or not your current institution is prepared to write that letter for you. If you can't get it, you won't be able to transfer. Be sure to ask them what you need to do in order to earn the right to that letter. Don't be surprised if they require hard evidence of your improved behavior.</p>

<p>Yes, you want to be in school again as soon as possible, but as you have written above, you haven't performed up to your abilities while in college. It may be in your long-term best interest to take a year (or even two) off, work, earn money, explore some career options, and then complete your education when you are truly ready.</p>

<p>Wishing you all the best.</p>

<p>Your best bet is to get some job experience for a year or two and then return to your "very top tier" school when they will let you. If you can get some maturity and ace your last year employers will notice the shift in grade point. Of course you could end up in a job you love and they might just pay for you to finish. But it is a rough market out there.</p>

<p>Oh I see. Well community college wont do you justice. How much transferring to a pretty decent state school like colorado, or university of rhode island. Or a school like pepperdine might take you maybe. I didn't even know they suspended kids from college</p>

<p>"I didn't even know they suspended kids from college"</p>

<p>I laughed on this. Is this your favor quote? Cuz I seen it before somewhere I don't remember.</p>

<p>And YES, they do. They do all kinds of bad things you never know.</p>

<p>@ alyssaz
Going to a community college was the best decision I have ever made in my life. Not only that it saved me lots of money, I have also been given a chance to attend top universities with decent amount of scholarships. Some of these universities are Cornell, lehigh, tulane, rochester, Penn, Columbia, Maryland and many others. </p>

<p>MODERATOR NOTE: WHILE THIS MEMBER RECEIVED EMAILS CONCERNING PBK SCHOLARSHIPS FROM THE SCHOOLS LISTED ABOVE, THEY NEITHER APPLIED NOR WERE THEY ACCEPTED BY THESE SCHOOLS. THE MEMBER APOLOGIZES FOR THE POSTING FALSE INFORMATION ON THIS BOARD.</p>

<p>Although I agree that most medical/dental/pharmacy/optometry/podiatry prefer students to complete their prerequisites at a 4 year uni/ college, plenty have gained admission by doing so at a cc. The majority of graduate schools do accept cc credits.</p>

<p>Why'd you assault them?</p>

<p>i did not.</p>

<p>for those who were wondering; it is extremely difficult for a student to transfer with senior status to another university...schools rarely do it.</p>

<p>if anyone has heard of a way to circumvent this or has any suggestions please do tell..</p>

<p>There really isn't any way to circumvent this problem. I suggest you sit down and make a list of your actual options and then pick one. Realize that each of your options probably has a significant down-side because your have burned the most immediate ones for now.</p>

<p>Will your school take you back after the 2 year suspension? 2 year seems like a long time, but if it truly is an elite school, that may be an option to keep in play. You simply may find that no other "equal" college will have you.</p>

<p>The UCs are probably not an option because you are a senior transfer with a modest 2.9 gpa. Trying to go to community college raise your gpa grades makes it worse because you'd have way more credits from a 4year + CCC than are allowed at the UCs for transfers. They simply disqualify your application immediately.</p>

<p>There are a lot of CSUs that would take you, especially if you raise your gpa at a CCC. The CSUs do not disqualify students based on too many credits. A down side to the CSUs is that many are treating super-seniors very strict... no second majors, must graduate the fastest route possible, lots of oversight on class selection, etc.</p>

<p>Some lower tier privates would take you. However, for more selective privates, trying to explain away an assault-based suspension would be near impossible. If you say it was unfair and a kangaroo court, you sound like you haven't taken responsibility. If you own up to the charges, you sound (unfortunately) like a risk and these privates want to know you have matured and grown... and that takes time. Such as working in the real world for a year or two.</p>

<p>alyssaz has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. CC transfers can be competitive even in the Ivies.</p>

<p>Sure, CC transfers can be competitive at the Ivies, but not necessarily in this situation. The suspension causes problems for lower-tier and upper-tier publics, privates and CCC transfer students.</p>

<p>i would just wait the 2 years, you aren't going to be able to get into any decent schools as a senior transfer</p>

<p>and no, community college students generally aren't competitive for ivy league schools</p>

<p>Based on what information or experience, perfect36? I personally know two people who transferred from CCs to Stanford and Penn. Of course they are exceptional students at their CCs, but EVERYONE transferring to Ivies are exceptional students. </p>

<p>In the case of OP - yeah, he's going to have trouble transferring to an Ivy regardless of what he does because of the details of his situation.</p>

<p>Please read Moderator Note on post #8.</p>