<p>The current issue of Time magazine includes an article, </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1653653,00.html[/url]”>http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1653653,00.html</a> </p>
<p>“Failing Our Geniuses,” profiling some gifted students and how school issues prompted them to move across the country to go to a special high school for gifted students. </p>
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<p>Would you move across country to find a better fit for high school?</p>
<p>To answer your question, No.
Does anyone know a website where you could take an IQ test?</p>
<p>The tickle.com always advertises, but I it (and any other online site) is accurate. For a true test, you can see a psychologist, or maybe check out the MENSA chapter in your area?</p>
<p>You wouldn’t want to trust an IQ test that you can take online, because it has never been validated, most likely. You’d want to take any IQ test, even one professionally administered in the industry-standard manner, with a grain of salt. </p>
<p><a href=“http://learninfreedom.org/iqbooks.html[/url]”>http://learninfreedom.org/iqbooks.html</a></p>
<p>The problem with geniuses is that they are such anomalies in society that they can never get along with their peers. In today’s global culture, they would have a hard time thriving with their superior abilities as almost all vocations require groupwork or teamwork of some sort.</p>
<p>What if geniuses get practice working with one another as part of their early education?</p>
<p>There are only a handful of geniuses in the entire world. With all the national and religious tensions it’s next to impossible to coordinate such an effort.</p>
<p>Well, yes, one problem with the word “genius” is that its technical meaning (as certain psychologists use the word) is narrow and refers to a very rarely found kind of person, while the commonplace meaning is just “very smart person,” which has rather different implications. But how about this question: wouldn’t it be better to let the learners who find school lessons the easiest have an opportunity to do more challenging things in school, in the company of other learners who are looking for more challenge?</p>
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<p>Thought to ponder- what if that would prohibit them from ever testing at the “genius” level? I don’t think we know enough about the nature vs. nurture argument to fully say.
(Although the genome project could refute that in the next few years… anyone know the projected time for when chromosome 2 is supposed to be fully mapped?)</p>
<p>There is a lot of truth about failing smart students in general. My school won’t even let 8th graders take Algebra 1 anymore because they don’t want to have to have a Calculus class. I’m glad I got that opportunity while it lasted. It’s really sad if you think about it.</p>
<p>Yep it’s not only the genius’ they are failing, in general a smart kid in a high school will find a regular class easy because regular has become remedial and the bar keeps going lower.</p>
<p>To note the IQ issue: I really wouldn’t put a huge emphasis on IQ numbers. Take myself, for instance. I was tested as a kid (just like Annalisse Brasil), and my IQ was supposedly 143. Whoa, big whopping deal. </p>
<p>Well, I don’t feel any smarter than other people. I think I think (wow, great syntax) more than most kids my age, but today’s culture doesn’t encourage thinking that much, so it’s not their fault. (However, I do like to pretend that there is a budding genius inside me, but I have to go study for a standardized test instead) </p>
<p>Anyway, I do think that if the public educational system would stop pouring homework and busywork on all of us, and actually let us LEARN, then we wouldn’t be failing our geniuses. In fact, we wouldn’t be failing our children either.</p>
<p>I feel the same that you do in regards to the busywork. I don’t ever really feel like I’m learning at school; more like I’m “learning” what’s on the next test, and I don’t retain it very much. It’s boring a repetitve and once you learn the pattern the amount of thought put in to the work decreases by a LOT.</p>
<p>And the sad thing is that when teachers try to introduce discussions to into the class, most people don’t even take part. They sleep. 
Which of course leads to more busywork because that’s all people respond to.</p>
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<p>Early education … so does that mean pre-k? It would be hard to identify geniuses at such a young age, unless there was a mandatory IQ test for all pre-kindergarteners.</p>
<p>They didn’t classify me as ‘gifted’ until 4th grade–I was a quiet kid.</p>
<p>Oh, I meant primary and secondary education (education one receives before the age of majority) when I was using the term “early education” there. Thanks for reminding me that many readers will interpret the term “early education” as “prekindergarten education.” </p>
<p>I asked, because I can’t think of any rationale to RESTRICT the access of bright learners to as many other bright learners as there are in their community. I think society would end up with more adult “geniuses” in the best and most restrictive sense of that word if every learner were encouraged to set higher standards and the most able learners were allowed to interact with one another while growing up.</p>
<p>I’m 16 and my IQ is 149 (professionally administered) and I don’t feel like “genius” or that I can’t socialize properly with others. I am going to be taking 16 AP’s in high school but I don’t feel much smarter than anyone else…</p>
<p>Good for you…</p>
<p>I think the article hit those key points very well. Public schools horribly fail “very smart” kids. They are very inflexible, and they are more concerned with getting the worst performing children up to NCLB levels instead of challenging those who want a challenge.</p>
<p>I can’t say I have any personal pespective on the the issue of moving for education. However, I did read the TIME magazine article and I agree that there should be increased funding for genius level children. </p>
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<p>:-( I feel like one of those marginal hardworking kids, I don’t have a genius IQ.</p>
<p>In my experience, AP classes don’t do much either. It’s all just homework and busywork, as I noted before. Once in a while, I’ll bump into a class where intellectual conversation and actual learning takes place, but most of the AP classes are just…pathetic.</p>
<p>Also, another thing concerns me. My little brother will go into junior high in a year, and I know he’s not going to get the education he needs. He’s what you would call an autistic savant. My little brother can memorize facts (i.e. how many years ago was the pre-Cambrian period), connect and come up with innovative ideas, and you can tell he’s ahead of his peers intellectually just by talking to him. </p>
<p>While he’s a “high-functioning autistic” (I hate these terms…), he would most likely be placed in the assisted learning department. I’m sorry, but the last thing my brother needs is just that. Even in a normal classroom setting, he is bored out of his mind, which affects his behavior. The best the “GT Program” can do here is send kids to the zoo and…give them more homework. </p>
<p>And I mean, for some people (my family), going to a gifted school is too expensive, especially if they have to pay for a sibling’s college expenses (also my family, next year). SOO…we’re kind of stuck. :)</p>