fake teacher recs - what should i do?

[Baelor]

<p>“At least you’re finally admitting you have a Jesus complex…”</p>

<p>No, I don’t, and the OP doesn’t. He didn’t snoop around. He didn’t go out of his way to get in this position. It fell from above, right onto him. It took what, five minutes to type the email?</p>

<p>“he TOLD people that he forged recs. if he really did it and gets caught for it, hes not gonna be like “damn i shouldnt have forged them,” hes gonna say “damn i shouldnt have told anybody.””</p>

<p>That’s a possibility. But at least Yale kept someone who both lacks ethics and doesn’t learn from his behavior from sullying their institution, yes?</p>

[repzolow]

<p>Any updates to the situation?</p>

[arcadefire1027]

<p>I think that reporting him is a jerk move. The way I see it, if he was able to beat the system, he was able to beat the system. Or maybe Yale themselves will get suspicious. But I would never do this to a friend. Or is he just a slight acquaintance? Either way, it just seems cold to me.</p>

[amciw]

<p>He wasn’t beating the system, he was cheating it. There is a major difference.</p>

[galoisien]

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i dont have to present a counterargument. he made a claim against every cheater in the history of man. he’s the one who has to prove it.

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<p>Cheating is an explicit crime against other individuals. (i.e. antisocial) </p>

<p>Drinking is not inherently antisocial if it is done properly. </p>

<p>I am also not sure if you even know how to do forensics.</p>

[piccolojunior]

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Drinking does not imply being alcoholic. There are responsible ways to drink. Cheating however, is a sign of an antisocial personality flaw.

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<p>Fail logic.</p>

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I actually read an article the other day that talked about how like 30% of American kids these days are missing some gene that makes the neural receptors that allow them to learn from their mistakes.

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<p>I lol’d. Maybe it’s just that >30% of American kids are raised by idiotic parents and in doing so become idiots themselves?</p>

[galoisien]

<p>There are responsible ways to use a substance.</p>

<p>Cheating is never morally justifiable. There are in fact so many psychological barriers to cheating (based on the biological fact that man is a social animal) that anyone who cheats is exhibiting a flawed personality that must be repaired, one way or another.</p>

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I lol’d. Maybe it’s just that >30% of American kids are raised by idiotic parents and in doing so become idiots themselves?

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<p>Ah. The nurture-nature debate. Unfortunately too many people tend to be misinformed when they leap into it.</p>

[Newjack88]

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There are responsible ways to use a substance.

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<p>There are responsible ways to cheat too. There are responsible ways to do everything, so you don’t have much of a point.</p>

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Cheating is never morally justifiable. There are in fact so many psychological barriers to cheating (based on the biological fact that man is a social animal) that anyone who cheats is exhibiting a flawed personality that must be repaired, one way or another.

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<p>First of all, this would matter only if people were perfect. But guess what? They’re not.</p>

<p>Second, cheating is always morally justifiable since a cheater can always justify why he or she cheated. Whether or not the cheater was morally justified in cheating is a separate question.</p>

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Ah. The nurture-nature debate. Unfortunately too many people tend to be misinformed when they leap into it.

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<p>Pointless comment unless you think this applies to piccolojunior. (It doesn’t.)</p>

[galoisien]

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There are responsible ways to cheat too.

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<p>No, there are not, and this is precisely the difference.</p>

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Second, cheating is always morally justifiable since a cheater can always justify why he or she cheated.

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<p>There’s a logical gap in this argument.</p>

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Pointless comment unless you think this applies to piccolojunior. (It doesn’t.)

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<p>It applies because she dismisses an empirical finding with speculation. Way to go.</p>

[Baelor]

<p>“Second, cheating is always morally justifiable since a cheater can always justify why he or she cheated. Whether or not the cheater was morally justified in cheating is a separate question.”</p>

<p>If the cheater’s argument is flawed, then it’s not morally justifiable.</p>

[zzzboy]

<p>i agree that cheating is antisocial in college since it messes up other people’s grades, but what about cheating in high school?</p>

[Newjack88]

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No, there are not, and this is precisely the difference.

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<p>If someone told you they were going to kill your family if you didn’t win a round of golf, I’m pretty sure most people would agree it would be okay to cheat.</p>

<p>Granted that’s an extreme scenario, it’s appropriate since it is just as unreasonable as your claim that cheating is never justifiable.</p>

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There’s a logical gap in this argument.

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<p>I guess you didn’t get the hint…</p>

<p>You said it isn’t morally justifiable. Justifiable means that it has the potential to be justified and everything has that.</p>

<p>Whether or not something is justifiable or justified are two separate things.</p>

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If the cheater’s argument is flawed, then it’s not morally justifiable.

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<p>At least you get it…</p>

<p>But it’s still justifiable to him or her and those who agree. This really is a matter of perspective and you can never definitely say that someone’s perspective is wrong simply because it doesn’t adhere to your own.</p>

[Baelor]

<p>^ No, but that doesn’t mean it’s right or wrong. It just means that you can’t use the fact that it disagrees with your own views as a way to claim it’s incorrect. Not everyone shares your view that views can never be right or wrong.</p>

[galoisien]

<p>Ah, Newjack, you’re a moral relativist scumbag. Nice to know. </p>

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If someone told you they were going to kill your family if you didn’t win a round of golf, I’m pretty sure most people would agree it would be okay to cheat.

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<p>Fallacy of equivocation.</p>

<p>We’re talking about academic cheating here, not cheating in a game. Those are quite two different things. </p>

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Whether or not something is justifiable or justified are two separate things.

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<p>You’re making a dictionary distinction – pure semantics. A justifiable action is one that can be rendered just under the appropriate conditions. It does not mean, “action that has a plausible excuse”. Please do not throw etymology debates at me – those are quite irrelevant.</p>

[Baelor]

<p>Gal – Please keep it civil (“scumbag” was unnecessary).</p>

[Newjack88]

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We’re talking about academic cheating here, not cheating in a game. Those are quite two different things.

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<p>Ah, galoisien, you’re a moral relativist too. Nice to know.</p>

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You’re making a dictionary distinction – pure semantics. A justifiable action is one that can be rendered just under the appropriate conditions. It does not mean, “action that has a plausible excuse”. Please do not throw etymology debates at me – those are quite irrelevant.

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<p>So my argument is invalid because I actually know what the word “justifiable” means and you don’t? Please.</p>

<p>Baelor:</p>

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Gal – Please keep it civil (“scumbag” was unnecessary).

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<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>Anyway, we can agree to disagree about whether something can ever be justified. (By “justified,” I mean totally justified.)</p>

[mooseman976]

<p>Cheating ■■■■■■■. Collegebound 2009, you did the right thing. I hope you bagged him. He should be fine with going from Yale to his local Community College, or better yet, McDonald’s!</p>

[piccolojunior]

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There are responsible ways to use a substance.</p>

<p>There are responsible ways to use a substance.

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<p>There are responsible ways to use nuclear weapons too. What’s your point? BTW, I just have to say you’re quite the illiterate to refer to me as “she” when my gender is right there…meh w/e, homotional nerds FTL</p>

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Cheating is never morally justifiable. There are in fact so many psychological barriers to cheating (based on the biological fact that man is a social animal) that anyone who cheats is exhibiting a flawed personality that must be repaired, one way or another.

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<p>OMG IM SUCH A BAD PERSON FOR USING IDDQD AND IDKFA IN DOOM II LULZ</p>

<p>I’m guessing you think an hour of MGO/SOCOM is antisocial and somehow “worse” than getting drunk, which is perfectly fine. What do you know about flawed personalities anyway? You’re from singapore right, don’t they whip you for chewing gum over there lol?</p>

[zzzboy]

<p>i hack sometimes in counterstrike</p>

<p>im going to be a murderer.</p>

[Phead128]

<p>^ Dood, how you hack in CS? Teach me. Dood. Hackish is elitism.</p>