Fats are not bad after all?

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<p>Jeez, the minute I discover No Pudge Brownies (yum! highly recommend!) they come up with this: <a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/health/08fat.html?hp&ex=1139461200&en=94a8756355f69047&ei=5094&partner=homepage[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/health/08fat.html?hp&ex=1139461200&en=94a8756355f69047&ei=5094&partner=homepage&lt;/a&gt; Of course, the truth is bound to turn out to be somewhere in the middle…</p>

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<p>interesting article. but yeah, i agree. The truth is somewhere in between. Although it doesnt mean that I will eat a high fat meal every day.
(What are no pudge brownies?) and why “no pudge”</p>

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<p>I think it comes down to the kind of fats you eat. The study began before they knew much about trans fats, found mostly in processed foods, which seem to be the real problems.
Seems to me that if you stick with whole foods and stay away from processed junk as much as possible, you’re ahead of the game.
I wish my 17 year old son understood this concept. Living in California, eating healthfully is really not that hard. We have fresh foods all year long at fairly reasonable prices, yet there’s still something irresistable about the donut.</p>

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<p>No Pudge Brownies: <a href=“No Pudge! Brownie Mix - Reily Products”>No Pudge! Brownie Mix - Reily Products; and <a href=“http://www.luzianne.com/display_template.cfm?ID=c-26[/url]”>http://www.luzianne.com/display_template.cfm?ID=c-26&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Let me tell you – and I NEVER bake from a mix, ever even use margarine, and am a natural/whole foods nut – these are excellent and incredibly easy. And the mix doesn’t have anything fake in it. You just dump in a carton of nonfat vanilla yogurt and bake.</p>

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<p>In 1970, the average American ate 1/2 pound of corn fructose/corn syrup a year. In 1996, it was up to 62 1/2 pounds per year, and has been rising ever since. There have been really massive changes in the American diet in just one generation that usually go unmentioned.</p>

<p>It may be that we are living longer because of all the preservatives. ;)</p>

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<p>Wow, those are big numbers! Do you have a citation for that? I’d love to quote them to my soda-lovin’ son!</p>

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<p>When I saw the title of this thread, I remembered that wonderful line from “Sleeper” when scientists of the future are puzzling over health foods from the 1970s and one of them says, “You mean there was no deep fat?” </p>

<p>Turns out that fat, sweets, and other junk are keys to longevity, in Woody Allen’s imagination, at least.</p>

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<p>Preservatives!</p>

<p>SuNa - this will give you more than you’d ever want to know:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/highfructose.html[/url]”>http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/highfructose.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>MMM. I have got to get my mom to bake some of those brownies.(She is very cautious about high fats and stuff.) She’ll love 'em.</p>

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<p>I’d read this thread but I’m off to order some pizza and chocolate eclairs (with custard filling, not whipped cream).</p>

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<p>lol… good call :smiley: ^^</p>

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<p>“I’d read this thread but I’m off to order some pizza and chocolate eclairs (with custard filling, not whipped cream).”</p>

<p>Good choice. A low-fat, fruit-flavored yogurt, for example, can have 10 teaspoons of fructose-based sweetener in one serving.</p>

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<p>Check out this web page on coke…</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.zawaj.com/articles/drinkup.html[/url]”>http://www.zawaj.com/articles/drinkup.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Maybe it’s actually viral</p>

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<p>That page about fats leaves so many things unquestioned. There was a study of this poor class of people in India among which heart disease and athersclerosis were virtually nonexistent. Their diet was on average 6% fat. Compared to the 40% or more western diet, it seems obvious that fat plays a huge role. In addition their average cholesterol was around 110, and low for the US is 180. </p>

<p>A page full of great information is kurzweilai.net. Although most of the information goes against the findings of this study, this study is still on the main page just because they’re cool like that. </p>

<p>Besides this study turned out to be inconclusive, which means, fat is not bad AND fat is not good. The percentage of fat consumed by the particpants is on one hand not that low and on the other not very high. The goal according to USDA is 30% fat. The women in the high category were only consuming 36%, which is still below average for the American population. The other group consumed 27%, which is not that big of a difference. Both of these numbers are still high when you take into account what the rest of the world is eating.</p>

<p>This Rolls-Royce (sigh) study is seriously flawed. I can’t find where it says how many calories they actually ate per day. No one out there recommends a certain percentage of fat without giving a reasonable number of daily calories.</p>

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<p>I still think you are better off staying away from the Greek life… did someone say Frats ??</p>

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<p>Just a thought…</p>

<p>If you read the study, the problem is that there was very little difference between the “low fat” group and the “regular” group - only a few percentage points difference in calories from fat. So the study isn’t saying that a low fat diet isn’t helpful - it’s just saying that a small reduction in fact intake does not significantly change your long-term health.</p>

<p>As for corn syrup - eeww. Ever read food labels? There is corn syrup in everything. Then again, it’s mostly because Congress gives corn growers massive subsidies and they need to do something with this stuff. How about giving those subsidies to fruit and vegetable growers so as to reduce the prices for those foods, which would encourage Americans to eat better? Esp. beneficial for the poor, who tend to eat whatever is the least expensive.</p>

<p>I’m a vegetarian. My blood pressure is so low that I sometimes can’t donate blood. “88 over 50? Um… [flips through book]… hold on a minute… I’m going to have to check… [returns a few minutes later]… they said you’re okay to donate… wow, that’s low.” Amazing how good you can feel if you avoid all of the bad stuff - the corn syrup, sugar, soda, processed foods.</p>